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The Would-Be Season Five

Anubis

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So, I was looking at Memory Alpha's entry on the would-be season five and was wondering if people thought it sounded super cool, or awful. For a refresher:

A fifth season of Star Trek: Enterprise was never produced, since the show was officially canceled on 2 February 2005. The producers, however, had already devised numerous plans for future seasons, which could have started airing by September 2005. Most information is based on comments by producer Manny Coto.

* A Kzinti episode had been suggested as a prequel to TAS: "The Slaver Weapon", which progressed as far as a "rough rendering" of a Kzinti starship, commissioned by writer Jimmy Diggs. The story was titled "Kilkenny Cats."
* It has also been stated that the starship Enterprise would have received new crewmembers, including Shran, the recurring Andorian character.
* Plans existed for an episode showing the construction of the first starbase, most likely in the Berengaria system. First hints to that episode were already given in "Bound".
* Enterprise was due to revisit (actually previsit) the cloud city Stratos on Ardana showing the formation of the two castes seen in TOS: "The Cloud Minders".
* Guinan (Whoopi Goldberg) might have been seen as well: a two-hour drama centering around Hoshi Sato was written for Season Five (Writer's Guild-East Registration R18220-00), in which Guinan would be under an assumed name, "Claranna" (relating to Q's line to her in TNG: "Q Who", "Oh, is that the name you're using now?"), acting personal assistant of the head of the United Earth Space Probe Agency. Also to have been revealed: more of Guinan's background, what she was doing there since the time of Mark Twain (TNG: "Time's Arrow"), links to TOS and TNG, the first appearance of Skon, grandfather of Spock (T'Lar's line near the end of Star Trek III: The Search for Spock) in a filmed episode, and why Vulcan delayed helping Earth with warp drive. The story was titled "The Treatment."
* Further planned topics included the Enterprise finally visiting Phlox's homeworld, Denobula. Furthermore, a revisit to the Mirror Universe, which had already been shown in "In a Mirror, Darkly", and possibly featuring Hoshi Sato being empress of the Terran Empire had also been discussed. A return of Section 31, which had its last appearance in "Terra Prime", was planned as well.
* Judith and Garfield Reeves-Stevens pitched a story with Alice Krige as a Starfleet medical technician who makes contact with the Borg from Season 2 ("Regeneration") and becomes the Borg Queen. [1]
* Writer/producer Mike Sussman hoped to have T'Pol finally meet her father, and reveal to the audience that he was in fact a Romulan agent who had posed as a Vulcan officer prior to faking his own death. The suggestion that T'Pol was half-Romulan would have shed light on her affinity for humans as well as her interest in experimenting with emotions.

Personally, I regret that we never got to see it.
 
I don’t necessarily consider it crime that ENT didn’t get a fifth season. That’s too strong a word really. But it’s certainly an injustice from this fan’s point-of-view.

I’m intrigued by the possibility that T’Pol’s father might’ve been revealed to be a Romulan agent. It sounds a good way to give the character another dimension, while not contradicting her sparse background. It would’ve been interesting to see how this affected her when the Romulan War begins. I dare say it's not too far from the established character, constantly holding back information from her fellow crewmates. An excellent end of year cliff-hanger imo, giving her something personal at stake.

The story outlines proposed were a good start and doubtless a baker's dozen of better ones might've followed under this re-energised writing team.
 
I think it's regrettable that there was not a season 5. The start of the Earth-Romulan war alone would fill in a gap in the history of trek. So far there are only references. I'm not to sure how I like the Borg Queen one though. I don't think that one would fit in.
 
If there's one element from TNG I'd like brought to ENT, it would be the Betazoids... not in the comic relief Lwaxana mould though, more the Tam Elbrun (from Tin Man) variety. Maybe a first contact episode with that race. Also given the canon situation about never seeing Romulans, they're telepathic abilities would be useful. Possibly the way diplomatic negoiations brought the war to an end. Betazed could be not too far from the area of space which becomes the Neutral Zone for instance...
 
I hate the idea of some human chick "becoming the Borg Queen". Why do the humans always have to be involved in anything?
Besides, there are things about the Borg that are better left untouched, including their exact origins (and didn't they say the Borg were much older?)
Some stuff like bringing in Guinan, Skon or Shran seem interesting, so does "The Treatment".
The stratos story is totally redundant. Plus, if Archer witnessed the genesis of the Stratos caste system, shouldn't it all be in Kirk's computer?
 
TeutonicNights said:
The stratos story is totally redundant. Plus, if Archer witnessed the genesis of the Stratos caste system, shouldn't it all be in Kirk's computer?

Not really. The internet today doesn't completely resemble the internet at it's start. And thats just one example. Archer could have seen something that didn't seem so bad at first. Over the years it digressed into what Kirk encountered. They never said when Stratos became part of the federation, or who made first contact. So that one is plausible.


As for the borg, I agree. They need to stay away from ENT. Now I liked the borg episode by it self, but not in the enterprise series. Whoever thought of that should be shot!
 
There were a few things like the Kzinti and visiting Denobula that would've been interesting, but the Borg Queen, Guinan, and adding Shran as a perminant crew member would've been mistakes.
 
Randy1012 said:
The only proposed storyline I'm not very fond of is the "Birth of the Borg Queen" one.
I agree. I cringed when I read it.

I think it's more interesting not to know where exactly she came from. I like to think she's a "Hitler/Stalin" alien in her pre-Borg form whose ego and sense of self were so strong she retained her own consciousness when she was assimilated and was able to overcome the collective consciousness to "bring order to chaos." :evil:

ETA:
Captain X said:
There were a few things like the Kzinti and visiting Denobula that would've been interesting, but the Borg Queen, Guinan, and adding Shran as a perminant crew member would've been mistakes.
I don't mind the idea of running into Guinan -- after all, thanks to "Time's Arrow," she knows about the ascension of humanity in the coming centuries via Star Fleet and the Federation and so would probably be sticking around to see it happen. Naturally, she'd take an interest in the early explorations.

The only problem I've had with the idea of adding Shran to the NX-01 crew is that he was a captain on his own ship and NX-01 has a full complement of officers. So, what role would they have for him? It would make more sense to me that he continue as a recurring character on his own ship (more frequently than in the past, since I do love to see him!).

On a larger note, I loved Season 4, I really did. But I would hope that had there been a season 5, it wouldn't have been all "spin-offs" from TOS, et. al.

Enterprise had plenty of engaging episodes that didn't harken to anything in Future Trek, and I would want to see more of those tales, too.
 
Guinan might've been around when ENT took place, but she, much like the Borg, belong to a later era. I didn't much care for her in TNG even, so she could stay there as far as I would've been concerned. ;)
 
Captain X said:
Guinan might've been around when ENT took place, but she, much like the Borg, belong to a later era. I didn't much care for her in TNG even, so she could stay there as far as I would've been concerned. ;)
I liked Guinan. As advisers go, she was a lot less annoying than Troi.
 
It's a crime that we never got a season 5. The Borg Queen episode doesn't bother me. The Reeves-Stevenses have proven they know their Trek lore, and if anyone can make that story work, it's them. Also, I love Alice Krige and seeing her back in Trek would be a treat. :)
 
I would have liked to see most of that, except:

* I could swear there was Borg Queen dialogue in a VOY episode about her own original species having been assimilated, which would seem to preclude her being human.

* Can't say I've been itching to see the origins of Stratos; if anything, I'd've rather seen a TNG episode showing how that whole zenite-gas issue worked out.
 
I think Shran would have made an excellent addition to the crew. Also, "In a Mirror, Darkly" was one of my overall favorites of the entire run. I Always wondered what happened after Hoshi took control, and what would have happened when the Defiant returned to Earth.

Denobula would also have been great to see.
 
FredH said:
* I could swear there was Borg Queen dialogue in a VOY episode about her own original species having been assimilated, which would seem to preclude her being human.
I remember something like that too. You can narrow it down to either Dark Frontier or Unimatrix Zero. It was a conversation between Seven and the Susanna Thompson Queen, rather than Krige's. Off the top of my head and without looking it up, she didn't name her race but gave it a number in the low hundreds, I think. The early numbers would presumably be natives of the Delta Quadrant like the Vaadwaur, unless I miss my guess.

It would interesting to hear more about this Borg Queen story pitch from the source. The Memory Alpha article is also missing a proposal I read about somewhere, a prequel to The Changeling and the other half which collided with the Nomad probe.
 
Not keen on the Borg Queen, Shran becoming a permanent crewmember, Stratos and T'Pol's father being Romulan ideas.

And I agree with Jinx that some episodes that didn't relate to Future Trek would have been nice to see.

Still, it would have been nice to have a 5th Season.
 
I think I agree with everyone. The Borg Queen idea would've been a terrible idea. The Borg made one appearence too many on Enterprise. All the species they have to pull from, and they picked the Borg?!
 
I didn't mind "Regeneration," I actually thought using surviving drones from the destroyed sphere in 2063 was kind of clever, but I think that should have been it for the Borg on ENT.
 
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