The way TNG looked in the ENT episode "These are The Voyages"....

[jamestyler]

Those people should have been paying closer attention to Inheritance because that episode establishes that Data DOES age.

The fans I'm thinking off would see that (and I have seen it described as) a cop out. Which are the types that do tend to spoil the fun a bit.

Placing TaTV Riker and Troi in the middle of TNG's The Pegasus was just a bad idea in the first place. It would have worked better on the Titan. They created a problem were none was necessary.

It would have been good as they wouldn't have to hide the age, but with the concept they had linking the Enterprise's together was the best way to go. I didn't like the way they used it or tied it into Pegesus, but a non-Enterprise, particularly a ship we hadn't seen before, wouldn't have had much of a connection. Despite it feeling a little off, a glimpse of things past for us and future for them was a nice touch from my view.

 

[Sci]

I don't mean to kick a dead horse here, but I just had another idea. Was it really necessary to rewrite TATV as a novel that established TATV as fake events? If they really wanted to present this alternate take on things, couldn't they have just done it as a story for one of the Myriad Universe anthologies that was released last year? That way, you can please TATV haters by still pissing over it, and you can avoid all these "how dare you" complaints since all it is is one of many "what if" stories.

1. The Good That Men Do was written long before Myriad Universes was.

2. The problem with that is that The Good That Men Do is the first in an ongoing series of ENT novels set after "Terra Prime." Ergo, if they wanted to keep Trip around for the "ENT Relaunch" ([series] Relaunch being the common term for post-series finale novels), they could not do it as a Myriad Universes novel, because each Myriad Universes novel is standalone.

 

[Mach5]

I don't mean to kick a dead horse here, but I just had another idea. Was it really necessary to rewrite TATV as a novel that established TATV as fake events? If they really wanted to present this alternate take on things, couldn't they have just done it as a story for one of the Myriad Universe anthologies that was released last year? That way, you can please TATV haters by still pissing over it, and you can avoid all these "how dare you" complaints since all it is is one of many "what if" stories.

I wasn't aware that there were many "how dare you" complaints out there. IIRC, a lot of people welcomed the finale fix. IMHO, TATV made far too little sense to just be left as it is. That thing was practically begging to be reinterpreted.

 

[Praetor]

Placing TaTV Riker and Troi in the middle of TNG's The Pegasus was just a bad idea in the first place. It would have worked better on the Titan. They created a problem were none was necessary.

Well, I kind of see what they were going for. They wanted to pay tribute to the last time Trek was popular on TV and show a ship that people had an attachment to. Imagine those last flyby shots, only instead of the Ent-D, it would have been this Titan ship that no one had ever seen before. It definitely would have lessened the impact of the final shots.

Honestly, I think it was not the idea that was the problem but the execution, a common theme with Berman-Braga scripts. I like the idea of going back and showing us an old episode from a different perspective (it worked before: "Trials and Tribble-lations"). The holodeck could have been an interesting way to have the casts of two shows interacting without having yet another cliched time travel story.

Hell, even the death of Trip wasn't that bad of an idea. In the hands of good writers, it could have been a poignant way to end the series, and a vast improvement over the non-ending that Voyager got.

I agree that the problem was with the execution, and that the holodeck was an interesting way to go. I don't even see why it was thought sandwiching it into 'The Pegasus' was logical. Then again, imagine if they'd tried to do it to 'Best of Both Worlds.' However, I disagree that it wouldn't have worked on the Titan, especially if they had just made the Titan a Galaxy-class ship, or, alternatively, just not showed the ship's exterior much.

It almost seems like, in hindsight, combining elements of TATV and 'The Good Men Do' would have been the best way to go - have them reverently going over the history of the NX-01 only to discover that a sacred truth about it - some sort of heroic act like the death of Trip - actually masked some dark Romulan War secret that had until then been unknown.