I'm willing to bet that next weeks episode goes back to Alexandria and they don't pick up any of tonight's story lines until two weeks from now.
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I'm willing to bet that next weeks episode goes back to Alexandria and they don't pick up any of tonight's story lines until two weeks from now.
They checked the vehicles in the town and were all apparently inoperable. Setting aside the gas issue, batteries degrade over time. Could just be working cars are becoming fewer and fewer and far in between.
Next week looks like a "flashback" to what Morgan's been doing the last year or so (when he met Rick and Michonne in Rick'a hometown.)
I'm saying they've had the time to collect working cars prior to this. They shouldn't have had to been on foot in the first place.
If Daryl can assemble a motorcycle, I think he can get some cars into working condition in his free time.
I feel like if Glenn really is alive somehow, that it's a terrible cheat. You can't just toy with viewer emotions like that, he has to be dead. Yeah, you could imagine it's Nick on top of him or that Nick was hallucinating Glenn, or something else, but that's not so great of a misdirection.
I'm really upset right now and I don't know why. I mean, yeah it's just a TV show, but something about this particular one just really hit me in the feels. The whole episode was very nerve-racking. This has to be the most intense season to date.
Resolution with Glenn has to be in flashbacks. Perhaps in the form of Maggie telling him that she's pregnant, just the writers twisting the blade for the viewers.
They did say a surprise guest next week on Talking Dead, and perhaps that is Yeun. Perhaps after they've resolved any flashbacks. It's possible that it's only about Morgan, but for 90 minutes? I look forward to that story at any rate, but if they exclude anything present, I'll be anxious!
I'm really upset right now and I don't know why. I mean, yeah it's just a TV show, but something about this particular one just really hit me in the feels. The whole episode was very nerve-racking. This has to be the most intense season to date.
Resolution with Glenn has to be in flashbacks. Perhaps in the form of Maggie telling him that she's pregnant, just the writers twisting the blade for the viewers.
They did say a surprise guest next week on Talking Dead, and perhaps that is Yeun. Perhaps after they've resolved any flashbacks. It's possible that it's only about Morgan, but for 90 minutes? I look forward to that story at any rate, but if they exclude anything present, I'll be anxious!
A cheat--but i'm sure a lot of fans would forgive the series.
Probably because Glenn was the most "innocent" of the original Atlanta group--even more than Daryl. All others have had their bad, weird or asshole side, but he was always the nice guy pushing for hope, even as hopelessness beat the group down. After meeting Hershel, he discovered his faith, and held on to that through the Governor 1 & 2.0, Terminus, and right to the pet store in this episode.
Like the "next wave" characters Beth and Hershel, the death of good characters has a greater impact, as they had an internal well of belief that did not operate on the anything goes, kill or be killed realm occupied by so many WD characters.
I thought her pregnancy was strongly implied in the season 6 opener when Glenn wanted Maggie to stay at ASZ. Maggie has barely come to terms with the loss of her father and sister (in series time, its not that long ago), so if Glenn is truly dead, she will fall apart, or...
...she will commit suicide, or someone else--devastated by the mounting deaths of companions--will do the same.
Could be a resolution. But the fact Lauren Cohan promised this season would be worse than 5 (and I believe she was talking about character deaths), expect the series to have its first large shift to a majority of new characters.
There's lack of experience but I think some of those Alexandrians don't have basic survival instincts. As in they lose a number of them every week from getting run over waiting for the bus.
And no how good it was working with him/how much he'll be missed segments. I think TTD is consistent enough to not be able to sell this.
And no how good it was working with him/how much he'll be missed segments. I think TTD is consistent enough to not be able to sell this.
Should Rick have taken one of the Wolves captive so he could find out who they are or where they're coming from? Did he make a mistake by killing them all without trying to obtain information from them?
No. They were an active threat; unlike the discussion on the Wolf that Morgan had CAPTURED, tied-up and could have knocked out. But, way to pay attention!
As much as it pains me if the show lost Glenn, as he's one of my favorite characters, I would feel like having him survive his current predicament would be a cop-out and in the long term a worse move for the show in that it will remove a lot of dramatic tension from death scenes if they establish that characters can survive through even the most obviously fatal circumstances.
Even if Nick's blood provided Walker camouflage for Glenn, the sheer crushing weight of all those hundreds of Walkers pressing in on him in a confined space would simultaneously suffocate him and crush his chest cavity and the bones in his extremities. He'd literally be a broken man. It's not even something you'd have to imagine as it's happened before when people are rushed into a chokepoint like a locked exit while fleeing a structure fire, or the deaths due to overcrowding of pilgrims during the Hajj in Mecca.
Plus, when a herd is in a feeding frenzy like that, I can't see them carefully picking through the viscera of the guy lying on top of Glenn while gently avoiding the guy directly underneath him. They'd tear everything to bits until there was nothing left to tear at.
Even then, how long is this camo supposed to last? Yeah, I can see it possibly fooling the Walkers for a while, but they're not going to be redirected out of that bottleneck anytime soon, so how long can he possibly remain there playing possum? Maybe he could get up those stairs he and Nick walked right by without trying to go up and maybe hop on the roof of the building, but that's really a stretch.
I was a little disappointed in Michonne this episode. First, if a dying man gives you a final letter to give to his wife, don't give it back to him to deliver himself. You're his insurance policy. Play the odds. Also, while I agree that it's hard to take on 15 or so Walkers while your group is in an injured and weakened state with a bunch of dumbass amateurs, that can't be worse than the alternative of sitting around talking about your feelings for half an hour while you let the main herd catch up to you again.
And what was with the lack of mercy killings? I get that you have limited ammo, but you all had your knives and swords. There was no reason the nice guy who wanted to leave his wife a message had to get brutally torn apart while Michonne watched with her sword still sheathed on her back. Or the nice young lady who sacrificed herself to buy them some time should have saved herself a bullet, or one of the others should have shot her in the head.
I guess the baby food in the pocket of Rick's attacker was their way of hinting again that the Wolves have Judith (the first being the missing baby monitor in the last episode).
I know it may seem like I'm complaining a lot but I actually enjoyed the episode a great deal. It was very exciting and suspenseful from start to finish, though I wish they hadn't made some of the Alexandrians SO chickenshit and incompetent at even basic survival skills to drive home Rick's point about them. I mean, they should be able to at least stay alert and look around when you're being pursued by a Walker horde so that one can't slowly sneak up on you (as happened multiple times).
Even if Nick's blood provided Walker camouflage for Glenn, the sheer crushing weight of all those hundreds of Walkers pressing in on him in a confined space would simultaneously suffocate him and crush his chest cavity and the bones in his extremities. He'd literally be a broken man. It's not even something you'd have to imagine as it's happened before when people are rushed into a chokepoint like a locked exit while fleeing a structure fire, or the deaths due to overcrowding of pilgrims during the Hajj in Mecca.
Plus, when a herd is in a feeding frenzy like that, I can't see them carefully picking through the viscera of the guy lying on top of Glenn while gently avoiding the guy directly underneath him. They'd tear everything to bits until there was nothing left to tear at.
Even then, how long is this camo supposed to last? Yeah, I can see it possibly fooling the Walkers for a while, but they're not going to be redirected out of that bottleneck anytime soon, so how long can he possibly remain there playing possum? Maybe he could get up those stairs he and Nick walked right by without trying to go up and maybe hop on the roof of the building, but that's really a stretch.
I was a little disappointed in Michonne this episode. First, if a dying man gives you a final letter to give to his wife, don't give it back to him to deliver himself. You're his insurance policy. Play the odds. Also, while I agree that it's hard to take on 15 or so Walkers while your group is in an injured and weakened state with a bunch of dumbass amateurs, that can't be worse than the alternative of sitting around talking about your feelings for half an hour while you let the main herd catch up to you again.
And what was with the lack of mercy killings? I get that you have limited ammo, but you all had your knives and swords. There was no reason the nice guy who wanted to leave his wife a message had to get brutally torn apart while Michonne watched with her sword still sheathed on her back. Or the nice young lady who sacrificed herself to buy them some time should have saved herself a bullet, or one of the others should have shot her in the head.
I guess the baby food in the pocket of Rick's attacker was their way of hinting again that the Wolves have Judith (the first being the missing baby monitor in the last episode).
I know it may seem like I'm complaining a lot but I actually enjoyed the episode a great deal. It was very exciting and suspenseful from start to finish, though I wish they hadn't made some of the Alexandrians SO chickenshit and incompetent at even basic survival skills to drive home Rick's point about them. I mean, they should be able to at least stay alert and look around when you're being pursued by a Walker horde so that one can't slowly sneak up on you (as happened multiple times).
Yeah, I don't see how Glenn can legitimately come back from this and for the show to keep the same dramatic punch, and this isn't a show that pulls its punches. But not having Glenn in the "In Memoriam" on Talking Dead or Yeun as a "surprise guest" sort of sticks out a bit. I know there's been a couple times in the past where a deceased character didn't show up on TTD but considering Glenn has been there from the beginning this one sticks out big-time.
I liked the call-back to the first episode with Glenn calling Rick "dumbass" over the walkie.
But, man, if Glenn is gone that's going to rip Maggie apart. Though I really would have expected Glenn's death to track more with the comics.
I dunno, I'm guessing we'll more likely see a walker-Glenn return or maybe a mortally wounded Glenn who was able to get out of the walker dog-pile but severely injured and bitten, so his fate is sealed.
Next week's previews does seem like a Morgan-centric episode but it does seem unlikely we'd spend 90-minutes on his story with everything else going on. But, right now I'm getting the feeling the "Mega Herd" and the simmering conflict with the wolves is going to be our driving focus for the first half of this season.
Yeah, seeing stuff like that. Be really interesting to see what happens.
I liked the call-back to the first episode with Glenn calling Rick "dumbass" over the walkie.
But, man, if Glenn is gone that's going to rip Maggie apart. Though I really would have expected Glenn's death to track more with the comics.
I dunno, I'm guessing we'll more likely see a walker-Glenn return or maybe a mortally wounded Glenn who was able to get out of the walker dog-pile but severely injured and bitten, so his fate is sealed.
Next week's previews does seem like a Morgan-centric episode but it does seem unlikely we'd spend 90-minutes on his story with everything else going on. But, right now I'm getting the feeling the "Mega Herd" and the simmering conflict with the wolves is going to be our driving focus for the first half of this season.
I think Glenn is with (supposedly) Jesus...
Yeah, seeing stuff like that. Be really interesting to see what happens.
And no how good it was working with him/how much he'll be missed segments. I think TTD is consistent enough to not be able to sell this.[/QUOTE]
Of course, as others have thought in this thread, that could be on the producers' orders; Glenn could be dead, but to drag out the emotionalism of it all, Talking Dead will not show any memorials until an episode where his assumed death is dealt with (flashback or real time). Or--i'm guessing--Maggie's complete breakdown.
If Morgan was responsible for those Wolves getting away--only to nearly kill Rick, then that closes the book on how wrong his new world view is. The Wolves are too dangerous to handle in any way, other than immediate, lethal action.
Captain Carol was right.
I think Glenn is with (supposedly) Jesus...
Interesting. Not from ASZ. That's all I will say.
I think maybe Steven Yeun wasn't on TTD tonight simply because it wasn't his final episode. We're obviously going to get flashbacks or walker Glenn or a miracle survival. But in all probability, just flashbacks. And those flashbacks will probably be an "appropriate farewell", and then that'll be the right time for Yeun to show up on TTD. It would have been weird for him to be on TTD tonight, and then have another whole episode with him next week.
I loved how the crowd on TTD all groaned and moaned in unison when Hardwick mentioned a surprise guest next week.
Funny to see Yvette Nicole Brown was fully on board with the Enid-is-a-wolf theory. The baby food this week wasn't necessarily Judith's as Alexandria has a lot apparently sitting around and just ready for babies to show up. I'm pretty sure the baby monitor was still on the counter at the end last week, we just didn't get a look at the screen.
That Heath guy seems pretty cool. The guy that he and Michonne saved at the very end (the guy that was shot by Sturgess) is apparently Sasha's real-life husband, so what are the odds that the show will do something super obvious and hook the two characters up on the show?
That line Rick gave at the start, about not everyone making it. Who could have forseen that Glenn would be one of the ones not making it?
And that whole scene in the RV. Wow. What an intense episode. The giant herd chasing both Michonne and Glenn, and then Rick's scenes. Wow. This season has been outstanding so far, and all we have to look forward to next week is another 90-minute episode.
And speaking of how great this season has been, holy smokes, the zombie action has been cranked up all the way to 11. Remember back a few seasons ago (and even last season) when people complained that there weren't enough zombies on this show. That's a complaint exactly zero people on the entire planet are making so far this season.
Finally, huge congratulations to Eugene for surviving longer than Glenn.
I loved how the crowd on TTD all groaned and moaned in unison when Hardwick mentioned a surprise guest next week.
Funny to see Yvette Nicole Brown was fully on board with the Enid-is-a-wolf theory. The baby food this week wasn't necessarily Judith's as Alexandria has a lot apparently sitting around and just ready for babies to show up. I'm pretty sure the baby monitor was still on the counter at the end last week, we just didn't get a look at the screen.
That Heath guy seems pretty cool. The guy that he and Michonne saved at the very end (the guy that was shot by Sturgess) is apparently Sasha's real-life husband, so what are the odds that the show will do something super obvious and hook the two characters up on the show?
That line Rick gave at the start, about not everyone making it. Who could have forseen that Glenn would be one of the ones not making it?
And that whole scene in the RV. Wow. What an intense episode. The giant herd chasing both Michonne and Glenn, and then Rick's scenes. Wow. This season has been outstanding so far, and all we have to look forward to next week is another 90-minute episode.
And speaking of how great this season has been, holy smokes, the zombie action has been cranked up all the way to 11. Remember back a few seasons ago (and even last season) when people complained that there weren't enough zombies on this show. That's a complaint exactly zero people on the entire planet are making so far this season.
Finally, huge congratulations to Eugene for surviving longer than Glenn.
I wouldn't know. After five seasons of 'do I really want to carry on', I've not watched this or the spinoff, and I'm not coming back. I've watched shows on inertia before and regretted it.
I'm not in the slightest bit bothered by Glenn's demise so it looks like I made the right call !
That was kind of funny--the dreaded surprise guest. It's almost a threat.
If she is--or if the Wolves are psychotic soldiers for another force, I see a big moment for Carl coming.
It was on the counter after Carl removed the food from the oven. However, do hope Jusith is still there; as i've observed before, the baby-in-danger gimmick has been used too many times on this show dating back to season 4.
I loved how Michonne turned into the general and completely dressed down Heath about the hard truth of the world. He was coming off like Nicholas and Aiden with too many BS assumptions.
I'm still not seeing Enid as a wolf. I think they've made some allusions to her being one, but that it's misdirection. If she was a wolf, why would they even need Aaron's backpack of information? Why did she just sit around during the attack? Why did she live there for a very long time without any attack? I really just think she is a loner trying to survive, and not some sort of secret agent.
I forgot to mention that, I was thinking the same thing while watching. Especially the dude against the fence, he was right there.
I'm going to be in trouble... My wife was not able to watch last night and warned me not to reveal any spoilers... Mind you, this is several hours before the episode aired and I had no fore-warned spoily details given to me...
So I jokingly say to her that I "of course won't spoil anything for you... You know when when Rick gets his hand cut off? I won't say anything about that.. Oh, and when Glen dies? I won't tell you about that either..."
So if Glen is dead and now Rick must have to have his hand amputated, I am going to be in SERIOUS trouble... Why the hell do I have to be such a smart ass!!??
So I jokingly say to her that I "of course won't spoil anything for you... You know when when Rick gets his hand cut off? I won't say anything about that.. Oh, and when Glen dies? I won't tell you about that either..."
So if Glen is dead and now Rick must have to have his hand amputated, I am going to be in SERIOUS trouble... Why the hell do I have to be such a smart ass!!??
100% agreed. From the very beginning of the show, I've said that I don't care who they kill, as long as it isn't Glenn...
I doubt that. It would be pretty contrived for the two storylines to not meet up again in the next episode. There isn't that much empty space between the survivors and alexandria. Michonne and her group should return, at the very least.
Unless, it really is a lot of flashbacks to morgan's past, so that there just isn't much screentime in the present.
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