The Walking Dead Season 4

[shivkala]

I don't think it really needs pointing out that killing every walker they come across is both impractical and counter-productive. They're essentially living as hunter-gatherers, so most of their energy is spent on finding enough food and water to survive for another day.

As we saw at the prison, even if you're in a fortified location and can kill most of the ones that turn up at the fence everyday...the next day there'll be just an many or more to take their place. It never ends.

I heard an interview with Max Brooks where he talks about survival in a zombie apocalypse and he mentions expending energy. I couldn't tell what their plan was, but Carol was up for most of the night with Judith/keeping watch before we saw the house and we know Tyrese wasn't sleeping well. I'm not sure if Tyrese ever took over Judith/watch duty. Tyrese continued to have trouble sleeping.

Then there is the emotional toll of the day, finding Mika dead, having to take care of Lizzie. Killing the rail walker might have been a bit too much.

They have to be exhausted. They never did kill the deer, so they only had pecans/pecan cookies to eat. Not what I would consider a balanced diet.

And that's not taking into account what they had to eat and drink before the house.

As Rick said in the comics, they are the walking dead, they just don't know it yet.

 

[Ryan8bit]

I wouldn't call Dale's zombie a non-threat

The point is that "stuck" may not always be a permanent state. That railroad zombie could have become unstuck at some point. Plus, when you have kids around (regardless of if they're nuts) it wouldn't be good to leave it.

But with their circumstances, they were leaving, so it doesn't matter as much. If they were staying at the grove, then they should have killed it.

 

[Mojochi]

BTW, have we ever seen Daryl even once make an arrow? Bullets should be emergency use only, or a last line of defense in human conflict, unless you know how to make gun powder, forge bullets & save casings (Which you should, eventually). A zombie emergency is no less than 5 or 6 zombies per person, as in... 7 zombies? one bullet, & then go to work. 14 zombies & two people? 2 bullets, etc...

But what's really bugging me is the ongoing absolute lack of common sense in weapon choice and usage. Knives? A Hammer? Sign posts & street garbage? Are you serious? That's the best you can do against animalistic attack? In 4 seasons, one character has a useful close range weapon. ONE! You don't need nothing fancy really.

How common are these? A wilderness survivor will need one a n y w a y

At least, make yourself this. Nothing sexy, metal & sharpness

 

[Corran Horn]

in WWZ things got to the point where that kind of 'prybar' type weapon was a standard 'sidearm', I believe.

 

[Scout101]

primary weapon was more of a shovel with a flattened/sharpened head. Something sharp, light-weight, with good grip and reach/extension. And not useless if you also want to use it to dig a hole. Overall, very easy to make and use.

At the very least, machetes are super common. Every hardware store, sporting goods store, walmart etc carries a bunch. Ought to be pretty standard issue by this point. At 2 years out, having a pocket knife as your primary weapon is retarded. hammer is mildly better, because he got a long-reach one, but the weight will drag on you pretty quickly in a fight.

The pike/sharp shovel approach is really best, as you get good leverage and it keeps them at arms' length. They get too close by the time you're using a pocket knife.

 

[wissaboo]

The pike/sharp shovel approach is really best, as you get good leverage and it keeps them at arms' length. They get too close by the time you're using a pocket knife.

Makes for a better camera shot though.

 

[Mojochi]

primary weapon was more of a shovel with a flattened/sharpened head. Something sharp, light-weight, with good grip and reach/extension. And not useless if you also want to use it to dig a hole. Overall, very easy to make and use.

Yeah, that's the ticket

 

[selina]

The pike/sharp shovel approach is really best, as you get good leverage and it keeps them at arms' length. They get too close by the time you're using a pocket knife.

They already got too close when they are at arm's reach. So even with a shovel the walkers are already too close for my taste .

Why the characters didn't put a greater effort in making long distance weapons such as bows and arrows is beyond me. They don't need super cool ready-for-the-Olympics-bows. A wooden one would do, as long as the arrows flies a few feet. And while they were at the prison, they had the time.

 

[sojourner]

I don't think the situation has reached the point where they would try to make their own bows yet. There's still plenty of things to salvage as weapons.

 

[shivkala]

Right now, making weapons is the furthest thing from their minds. At the prison, yeah, they should have been on top of that.

If I recall correctly, I do believe we've seen Darryl whittling away at a stick to make an arrow before.

 

[Mojochi]

Right now, making weapons is the furthest thing from their minds. At the prison, yeah, they should have been on top of that.

If I recall correctly, I do believe we've seen Darryl whittling away at a stick to make an arrow before.

I wish I could remember when. It's never caught my attention

Agreed on your 1st point. It's time consuming to make arrows properly. Frankly, bows & arrows are wonderful hunting weapons, but not so great battle weapons. Learning to forge your own bullets would be vastly more useful

But at a certain point you just have to accept that hand to hand weapons will be your commonest method. So riot gear up, biatches

 

[Mister Fandango]

It's not like you need razor-sharp swords or anything for these zombies. They're super squishy. Bludgeoning weapons like hammers and bats are probably way better anyway. Less chance of them getting stuck and whatnot.

 

[sojourner]

personally, for a melee weapon I'd choose a machete. It's light to carry and has other uses besides zombie killing.

 

[TREK_GOD_1]

...or have a tool belt with several weapons: machete, hammer, crow bar, long screwdriver, hunting knife--or any combination of at least 3. They have to think they are at war, so being armed with multiple weapons serving different purposes would reduce the loss of the living to some degree.

Walking around with just one pistol and knife (ex. Carl and Rick) is just not practical in a situation where you can run out of bullets, or break the knife blade while fighting zombies.

 

[Velocity]

When Lizzie said she hears the walkers, I wish some one would have said, "oh yeah? what are they saying?" I really wanted to hear more about that. It was probably just crazy-talk but what if...

 

[Borgminister]

"....Braaaaaaaiiiinnnnnsssss...."

 

[Mojochi]

...or have a tool belt with several weapons: machete, hammer, crow bar, long screwdriver, hunting knife--or any combination of at least 3. They have to think they are at war, so being armed with multiple weapons serving different purposes would reduce the loss of the living to some degree.

Walking around with just one pistol and knife (ex. Carl and Rick) is just not practical in a situation where you can run out of bullets, or break the knife blade while fighting zombies.

You'd want to be conservative in how much weight you pack. It's best to use things you'll need anyhow. A hatchet or axe, a machete, a shovel that acts as a weapon & pry bar, & a good hunting knife... Plus a reliable handgun with a few clips for emergencies

 

[kitik]

When Lizzie said she hears the walkers, I wish some one would have said, "oh yeah? what are they saying?" I really wanted to hear more about that. It was probably just crazy-talk but what if...

Didn't Lizzie say something along the lines of "they want us to be like them"?

 

[auntiehill]

Finally at home and got to watch this episode. Holy SHIT, that was sad. I kinda saw it coming for

Spoiler: spoiler

crazy-ass psycho Lizzie but I was kinda hoping Mika would be the one to do her in. When Carol compared her to Sophia, I was hoping that meant her fate might be different, but..........no

. Carol did what she had to do. Christ, that was sad.

 

[Tom Hendricks]

Here is a video for a song written and sung by the actresses who played Mika & Lizzy and about the episode The Grove. If you haven't watched the episode, please don't watch this video...serious spoilers.

[yt]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfb4M1aS_Pk#t=106[/yt]