The Walking Dead Season 2 Discussion *Spoilers*

[sojourner]

Well, the 2 Rick killed in the bar didn't reanimate, so there goes the "everyone has the virus" idea.

Shane lying to Lori was awesome. I think almost everyone would have done the same thing.

I really think Lori is the root of all contention. Kill her and Shane will be "right as rain".

ETA: Oh yeah, "Hey everyone, I think Lori's missing. We need to search the farm!". Um, yeah maybe she took that Ford Taurus that's been missing since noon.

 

[Caliburn24]

Fantastic first half to the episode, plodding heavy handed character drama in the second half.

Was it wrong that I wanted the girl at the farm to wake up as a zombie and chow down on all the female characters on the show?

If it were just the male characters tromping about together as a band of brothers the writers wouldn't have the means to create such contrived drama.

 

[Dorian Thompson]

Not everyone reanimates quickly. It took Amy all night long and into the morning before she came back as a walker. The guys in the bar may well stagger back to life.

Actually, Lori plotting against Shane is the first thing she's done that makes sense. It may be sneaky and underhanded, but she isn't that far out in left field to be worried about Shane's possessiveness. And he did leave Otis behind to die a horrible death. Shane's a ticking time bomb. Still, they needed a different actress for Lori. Another actress would have elicited more sympathy. I like the actresses for Andrea, Maggie and Carol. I didn't feel the Carol/Daryl scenes were "meh." She gets him. After all the abuse she took from Ed, Daryl lashing out for more understandable reasons is a piece of cake for Carol with the shitty life she's had. I like Daryl, even though he was being a mouthy mofo.

Also, appropos of nothing, with the whole group of them there in the house and concerned about whatshername who's sick....it's not entirely unrealistic that they wouldn't have noticed one of the cars was gone.

 

[Silvercrest]

Well, the 2 Rick killed in the bar didn't reanimate, so there goes the "everyone has the virus" idea.

They were shot in the head. Hasn't the show established that keeps them down? Suddenly I can't remember.

 

[sojourner]

Also, appropos of nothing, with the whole group of them there in the house and concerned about whatshername who's sick....it's not entirely unrealistic that they wouldn't have noticed one of the cars was gone.

It's unrealistic that a paranoid like Shane didn't notice it. Or for any of them to notice it first thing when they started looking for her.

They were shot in the head. Hasn't the show established that keeps them down? Suddenly I can't remember.

Were they shot in the head? pretty sure the fat one died pretty slowly for a head shot.

 

[Enterprise is Great]

Rick definitely shot the fat dude in the head even after he was down from the first shots. I don't remember if he did that to the other guy though.

That was gross when the guy got his face bitten off. The walker just chomped down on his nose and ripped it off. Ewwww. I liked how the flesh was peeling off the walker's face as he tried to get Lori though the windshield. Nice attention to detail.

 

[Ryan]

The fact Shane still wants to be in a relationship with Lori really is the best evidence he's batshit crazy. That woman is horrible. Just absolutely horrible

 

[Derishton]

Were they shot in the head? pretty sure the fat one died pretty slowly for a head shot.

I thought Rick finished them off with headshots, which implies to me that he's aware everyone reanimates.

 

[Santeria]

Were they shot in the head? pretty sure the fat one died pretty slowly for a head shot.

I thought Rick finished them off with headshots, which implies to me that he's aware everyone reanimates.

I'm pretty sure those were the final words of the CDC guy, which is why Rick hasn't told anyone what he said yet. If they knew, there'd be no hope for the future.

 

[Disruptor]

We saw dead bodies on the highway without apparent head wounds that were not undead, though.

 

[Santeria]

We saw dead bodies on the highway without apparent head wounds that were not undead, though.

I honestly don't remember many examples of that. Either way, I don't think a head shot is absolutely required to kill a zombie. It's just the only way to be sure to do the job.

 

[AviTrek]

Were they shot in the head? pretty sure the fat one died pretty slowly for a head shot.

I thought Rick finished them off with headshots, which implies to me that he's aware everyone reanimates.

I'm pretty sure those were the final words of the CDC guy, which is why Rick hasn't told anyone what he said yet. If they knew, there'd be no hope for the future.

Not really. Just look at all the different burial cultures throughout history. I could easily see a society developing that stabbed a body in the head after death as a normal part of morning. In fact it would make for an interesting story to visit the planet hundreds of years in the future. The zombies are all gone, humanity seems normal except for this one practice of stabbing dead bodies in the head. Then the time traveler/visitor comes and questions that. Next thing you know he's reintroduced zombies to the world.

 

[the G-man]

Not really. Just look at all the different burial cultures throughout history. I could easily see a society developing that stabbed a body in the head after death as a normal part of mourning.

Such a society is the setting of the movie Fido, in fact.

 

[Santeria]

Not really. Just look at all the different burial cultures throughout history. I could easily see a society developing that stabbed a body in the head after death as a normal part of morning. In fact it would make for an interesting story to visit the planet hundreds of years in the future. The zombies are all gone, humanity seems normal except for this one practice of stabbing dead bodies in the head. Then the time traveler/visitor comes and questions that. Next thing you know he's reintroduced zombies to the world.

Yes, and if someone died quietly of old age in their home, or in a massive car/plane wreck, or overdosed, or from a heart attack, or any other sort of death where someone else wasn't around to shoot them in the head, them blam, welcome to Zombie Apocalypse 2.0... then 3.0... then 4.0... etc.

It would be a constant, never-ending concern. Society would, in no way shape or form, function as it does now. There'd be no hope for "normality" if, whenever anyone died, they would reanimate as a brain-eating monster from Hell. Even if everyone carried a firearm with them 24/7, there'd still be a constant threat. The never-ending paranoia alone would all but insure that innocent people were constantly being killed by non-zombies.

 

[sojourner]

^You wouldn't get an apocalypse in a society engrained with the knowledge of what zombies are and how to deal with them, but yes, it would be a harsher society in some cases.

 

[the G-man]

^You wouldn't get an apocalypse in a society engrained with the knowledge of what zombies are and how to deal with them, but yes, it would be a harsher society in some cases.

Correct. Think of it like Rabies: There would still be isolated outbreaks here and there. However, since people would know how to deal with them, casualties would be limited and the outbreaks would be quickly confined.

And I almost hate to bring up AIDS (both because of the political implications and because of Herschel's implications) but in our lifetimes we've seen how medical providers and first responders can adopt to a potential pandemic and people adjust to that: everyone now wears rubber gloves, there are special disposal methods for medical waste, condoms are more openly discussed, etc.

No doubt a post zombie world would be harsher but there is already precedence throughout history for people to adapt behaviors to pandemics without the world coming to an end.

 

[PsychoPere]

Suddenly the town is crawling with walkers...they must lie dormant until guns are fired...how video gamey.

They may have been nearby, rather than in the town itself, and drawn towards the town by the initial gunfire inside the bar.

 

[Tom]

Rick definitely shot the fat dude in the head even after he was down from the first shots. I don't remember if he did that to the other guy though.

That was gross when the guy got his face bitten off. The walker just chomped down on his nose and ripped it off. Ewwww. I liked how the flesh was peeling off the walker's face as he tried to get Lori though the windshield. Nice attention to detail.

Rick shot the first guy in the head thus only needed one shot, then shot tony twice in the body and walked up to him and shot him in the head so he would not re-animate it was all very obvious. Can't believe some people dont know that in this thread, once in the head and you stay dead! lol

 

[sojourner]

Oh, WE know it, but it has yet to be established on the show if it's necessary to keep the newly dead from reanimating.

As for the headshots, I couldn't recall in the scene whether Rick did that or not. I guess my "they all have the virus" theory is back in play!

 

[jim hadar]

CDC guy confirmed that a head shot (or similar traumatic brain injury) was required. If you DVR it, Rick nails the guy behind the bar in the head with that one shot, then walks over and puts one in fatboy's head after wounding him. Was he eliminating the threat to the farm they represented if they survived, or making sure they did not re-animate from an airborne pathogen or both...