Oh, dear God, no!
Spoilers The Strange New Worlds Starship Thread™
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Scorched earth, baby! Scorched earth!!! 
Looks like I will agree to disagree with many of you. The exterior of the TOS Connie did not need to be changed or modernized.
Need? No, of course not. But this is a show that is designed to appeal to both nonfans, casual fans, and hardcore fans all at once, so there is an aspect to it that requires a measure of awareness of how the audience is going to react. They could have gone either way, and opted to update it for the sake of appealing to nonfans. Which, in my opinion, was the safer bet, because in my experience, ST 09 brought in a lot of casual fans who had passing familiarity with Trek but enjoyed how it looked in that film.
I go both ways on this design. In some ways the TOS ship is a beautiful ship, and looks good. In other ways, it feels very much like a model and not a "real" ship. I think of some shots in "In a Mirror, Darkly" where the NX-01 could look more real at times besides the Defiant. It's a fine line to cross, and I'm sure that many would disagree with me. But, for me, if they didn't update the TOS model the interiors would be too much of a clash with the exteriors and I would find it less believable as a functioning ship that can operate in space.
Mileage will vary.
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I begrudgingly admit that the interiors would not stay the same, but not the exterior. YMMV.
I’m pretty sure a casual viewer would not care how the ship looks. And of the viewers who would care, I doubt that simply updating the look of the TOS ship (both interior and exterior) but keeping the proportions basically the same rather than making it look completely different, would matter in the long run either.
Maybe. But, I doubt the production team was willing to take that bet.
I’m abandoning moderation of this thread. Y’all play nice now, OK.
I don’t think it was a matter of them placing a bet to see whether it would work. I think it was more likely that they simply had no intention to do so in the first place and just put their own spin on things. Just like what happened with DSC when it premiered.
I think part of it is the fact that they are trying to appeal to the larger audience as well as wanting to put their own spin on it. Distinct but recognizable.
Which is fine. They clearly are going for distinctive. They have been since they have been marketing the ships and colors. It worked well in TNG/TOS' favor because each of the division colors were distinct and the ships distinct. So, we see that marketing spin. Which, I think, GR would be proud of.
Like with any other Star Trek media material, the parts that are made canon are made so when they are mentioned or shown on screen. (Like the quick shot of the 1701-F Enterprise that was in the STP S3 promo, and presumably will be seen in one or more episodes). THAT said, in STO, the 1701-F didn't enter Starfleet service until late 2209. STP S3 takes place in 2401 or 2402 -- 7 years before the Odyssey Class was even in any sort of Experimental form.
Thus, YES, the 1701-F itself from STO will become a canon Star Trek ship (unless something major changes between the time the promo was made and the actual episode aired/streamed). BUT the STO timeline...DEFINITELY not canon (and I also doubt the Andorian captain of the 1701-F in STO Va'Kel Shon will be the Captain -- and again even if he is, it will be yet another break from the STO timeline as that character was Captain of the USS Belfast in late 2209, just before he was made Captain of the 1701-F when it launched into service.)
But no by and large STO will never be actual Star Trek canon because at this point, its timeline is VERY divergent. Hell, depending on how STP S3 plays out, the TNG characters (like Worf and Geordie LaForge and even 7 of 9 - who have all been voiced and have appeared in STO game missions) in STO may be radically different from their presentation in STO circa 2409-2411 - and I doubt it will be internally reconcilable with STO.
Seven in PIC is already radically different from most of her appearances in STO.
They had considered re-writing Seven in the content she's already in to move her closer to Picard, but decided to against it. Some of it even made it to the test server before they scrapped the idea.
Their reasoning was that STO is like a theme park. The section of missions Seven is in is themed after Voyager, so they decided to keep her more like her Voyager self.
There is a single mission where Seven is based off her Picard self, because it was made shortly before Season 1 aired (it even referenced the Fenris Rangers before the show did)
They had considered re-writing Seven in the content she's already in to move her closer to Picard, but decided to against it. Some of it even made it to the test server before they scrapped the idea.
Their reasoning was that STO is like a theme park. The section of missions Seven is in is themed after Voyager, so they decided to keep her more like her Voyager self.
There is a single mission where Seven is based off her Picard self, because it was made shortly before Season 1 aired (it even referenced the Fenris Rangers before the show did)
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Still hate the pylons. It's the one thing in the TOS design that will always stand out to me. Those pylons look like sticks.
They seem too long as well, imo. Remember this version's connecting hull is shorter than the classic.
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