I like it! It has the feel of what we see later in the movies, but has some echoes of the angled chambers we'd see in TOS, along with those intermix chambers that were in front of it (the 2 round chambers with the rounded tops).
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FWIW, the original FJ blueprints show the three forward-facing lights as "Search Sensors and Deflectors". I get the impression that they were never supposed to be windows from the beginning.
The intro is just a gorgeous segment! But isn't that the dome at the bottom of the primary hull lighting up? The deflector dish is gold and doesn't look to be lit.... just because ...
... a shot of the deflector dish warming up ... (another copycat shot from TMP)
Heh ... you're probably right. I'm so excited, I'm seeing things that aren't there.
This intro alone has really gotten me excited for this series, moreso than a lot of the news and clips ramping up to this!Heh ... you're probably right. I'm so excited, I'm seeing things that aren't there.
Heh ... it's amazing that we 'Shippers' may actually get a slew of nicely visible ship-shots in this new series that we can enjoyably dissect for the foreseeable future.
The guys at TREKYARDS are probably salivating all over their keyboards at this point.
If it's anything like Picard, the dissecting will only last for about half an hour before the production team post full orthos on Twitter for everyone!
Yeah, they were never windows. I know DSC S2 had the briefing room with those three round portholes, but they were too small to match the features on the model. So I guess they were just holographic monitors or something.
Like it...And in 7 years or so, they'll completely enclose it and sink it into the floor a bit.
Yes, that's the "lower sensor dome" on the saucer. Took me a couple of viewings to get that one.
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Yes, but we were specifically talking about how you can make the space inside a holodeck look like it extends beyond the confines of the room, and not have people walk into the walls. The walls are essentially using a 3D version of ILM's "Stagecraft" technology from a visual perspective, and the floor slides beneath people's feet to keep them as central as possible.
Not really. Showing an enormous building on a TV in your living room isn't the same as actually having an enormous building in your living room.
It's also important to consider the limitations of individual holodecks. We know that they come in different sizes, and small ones are more limited. The general feeling is that if you have two people in a holodeck and they wander apart from each other the holodeck has to split itself into virtual holodecks, and there's going to be a limit as to how many people it's going to be able to do that for before the illusion breaks down. If this wasn't a problem then the Hirogen in VOY: "The Killing Game" wouldn't have had to expand the holodecks by adding projectors throughout the rest of Voyager. A holodeck the size of a phone box wouldn't be convincing even for one person.
The Doctor is talking metaphorically. Indeed, he specifically scoffs at the suggestion that it's an illusion:
IAN: It's an illusion. It must be.
DOCTOR: What is he talking about now?
SUSAN: What are you doing here?
DOCTOR: You don't understand, so you find excuses. "Illusions" indeed! You say you can't fit an enormous building into one of your smaller sitting rooms?
IAN: No.
DOCTOR: But you've discovered television, haven't you?
IAN: Yes, but–
DOCTOR: Then by showing an enormous building on your television screen, you can do what seemed impossible, couldn't you?
IAN: Well, yes, but I still don't know...
DOCTOR: Not quite clear, is it. I can see by your face that you're not certain, you don't understand. I knew you wouldn't, never mind!
Several years later, he clarifies that the TARDIS really is physically bigger on the inside:
LEELA: So explain to me how this TARDIS is larger on the inside than the out.
DOCTOR: Hmm? All right, I'll show you. It's because insides and outsides are not in the same dimension.
The Doctor goes to a convenient cupboard and takes out two cube-shaped boxes.
DOCTOR: Which box is larger?
LEELA: <pointing> That one.
The Doctor places the larger box on the TARDIS console and comes over to stand by Leela, still holding the smaller box.
DOCTOR: Now which one is larger?
LEELA: <pointing at the one on the console> That one.
DOCTOR: But it looks smaller.
LEELA: That's because it's further away.
DOCTOR: Exactly. If you could keep it exactly that distance away and have it here, the large one would fit inside the small one.
LEELA: <pause> ...But that's silly.
DOCTOR: That's transdimensional engineering, a key Time Lord discovery.
Even the 10-C and the Q don't have infinite energy.
Yeah, I think the positioning of the nacelle we can see is too off kilter compared to the saucer for there to be only the one nacelle.
Hopefully we see this ship in episode 1 so we'll know for sure.
Probably won't and people will keep speculating
Probably won't and people will keep speculating
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Looks like a microbrewery.
But compared to the angle of saucer, you should be able to see the second nacelle if there was one.
Maybe the ship was damaged, it was blown off
Either way, if there was as second nacelle there we would be able to see it at that angle.
The way these folks are able to capture the essence of the TOS sets and then fully realize what Bachelin, Guzman, and Jefferies had in mind is breathtaking.
The ceiling fixture, the shape of the conference table, and the windows: it’s all there—
—but better.
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