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The reaction to the eventual TNG “visual reboot” is going to be interesting. I’ve always thought a big part of the reason so many are willing to throw the TOS look out the window is because it’s the oldest series. It’s easier to redo because more people grew up with TNG-ENT. But you redesign the E-D or Discoverse Worf, etc… reaction might be different.
I think I they made one for the Discoprise but it never made it on screen. The one for the Constellation did. I think.
my head canon is simple, we are watching a different quantum reality, like Worf experienced in “Parallels”. That episode featured thousands of different Enterprise D’s. It’s not impossible to think that the Discoverse was one of those. It’s a reality where technology just evolved in a different way than in the TOS-ENT universe.
doesn’t necessarily change characters or their back stories. Just the tech.
I think I they made one for the Discoprise but it never made it on screen. The one for the Constellation did. I think.
my head canon is simple, we are watching a different quantum reality, like Worf experienced in “Parallels”. That episode featured thousands of different Enterprise D’s. It’s not impossible to think that the Discoverse was one of those. It’s a reality where technology just evolved in a different way than in the TOS-ENT universe.
doesn’t necessarily change characters or their back stories. Just the tech.
You ever tried it?
And yet, he continues to be in demand to work on these shows.
Why don't you post something you've designed?
Lot of talk about flimsy ship bits here. I think that even by the 23rd century in Trek, force projections like shields and brig containment fields far exceed the strength of physical materials. Things like nacelle support pylons are basically just holding things at an optimal relative location, and aren't meant to endure much compression/shearing/torsional stress outside of external forces acting on the ship, and in that case structural integrity fields would be helping them bear up. Minimizing ship mass may be the more important consideration here.
I think the detached nacelles of the 32nd century are a logical progression of the variable warp geometry setup on the Intrepid class Voyager. As long as the ship has power, the nacelles aren't going anywhere. We can maybe assume a nested configuration for far future ship bits if power levels fall below a certain threshold though.
My monkey brain really lets me down in trying to 2nd guess all the ins and outs of future tech. Try taking a smart phone a few hundred years back in time. You will probably run into common frame of reference problems like being burned at the stake.
I think the detached nacelles of the 32nd century are a logical progression of the variable warp geometry setup on the Intrepid class Voyager. As long as the ship has power, the nacelles aren't going anywhere. We can maybe assume a nested configuration for far future ship bits if power levels fall below a certain threshold though.
My monkey brain really lets me down in trying to 2nd guess all the ins and outs of future tech. Try taking a smart phone a few hundred years back in time. You will probably run into common frame of reference problems like being burned at the stake.
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Doug literally designed the most well thought out ship in any series. The NX Enterprise. No weird windows layout .. No tardising .. Everything fit. And the series kept it mostly consistent.
The NX looks good. Maybe not quite prequel type, but I liked it as it's own thing.
Once out of curiosity I tried taking the NX-01 design and replaced the Excelsior saucer with a 50s flying saucer, seeing as TOS was a 60s show, and that was the missing ingredient for me. It suddenly looked so much more like a prequel ship, while still having the same basic design. (Though I would've also bulked up those skinny pylons, because it ain't the 23rd century yet mate).
Continuing to post the same bs doesn’t eventually make that bs true.
The trouble with the TOS aesthetic is that it only looks 20 years more dated than TNG instead of 100, but TNG's designers did their best!
The changelings will say: About time, it's not the 80s anymore! Then the continuum will say: Well is it also not the 2020s anymore? And the changelings will respond: Oh that was just for a few episodes, you can't make a whole series like that. They'll explain that materials and methods are completely different now, and that it's all irrelevant window dressing and necessary change at the same time. In the end it turns out they don't even see the differences themselves.
TNG already had a visual reboot when they changed the carpet, took the black cardboard off the back computer screens and turned the lighting up.
Pretty much except for the hotel lobby that was the 1701-D Bridge; the majority of the rest of the interior design was all reused sets and set pieces from the various TOS feature films Circa 1979 – 1986
Drexler has said Worf in PIC season 3 isn’t a discovery Klingon. Matalas has also said Worf looks like worf.
If they were going to redesign the -D they would hehe done it in Picard.
That's an assertion supported by the flimsiest of reasoning. No reason to buy it, at all.
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They did, slightly. Most notably the hull seems to be more detailed and more obviously metallic like Discovery, the deflector dish looks slightly different with truncated sides (but then it already varied within TNG already depending on if the 6ft, 4ft, or 2ft model was being used), and the Bussards have three internal glowing structures each, whereas in TNG they only had two. But yeah, it's barely a redesign compared to, say, the Constitution-class in Discovery.
Ready to have your mind blown? While original Doctor Who may have looked 'cheap and dated as hell,' it never once reused a ship model or stock footage from past shows or movies to save budget money in the 25+ years it was on the air. Star Trek can't say that, not by a long shot. Which, in my opinion, made Trek look cheap (i.e. the Enterprise-D visiting a brand-new starbase, which was a reuse of stock footage of Regula One from TWOK. Really?)
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