Spoilers The Strange New Worlds Starship Thread™

[Mudd]

I think the ship would look better with proportions more similar to the original and ST:TMP redesign, but I don't miss the absence of a bridge bubble or feel that the saucer proportions themselves are too "squished."

The detailing and texturing leaves quite a bit to be desired. That may evolve. Texturing itself has a lot to do with how the scenes are lit and rendered. Even the Discovery looked a lot better in season three (pre-future refit) than in the first year, and the Enterprise certainly did by the end of it's term on that series.

The more stuff we see from SNW, the more it puts to bed the (IMO ridiculous) claim that some had that you couldn't do the TOS aesthetic in a modern show, that it would look stupid. Sure, nothing here looks exactly as it did in TOS, but the feel of it is so much closer than where we were in...other shows set in this time period.

Exactly so. Visually, this series so far is Kirk's TV world writ large.

 

[Tomalak]

It is interesting that as time goes on, the designs get closer to the original, from the Kelvin films to Discovery and now SNW. And Picard to some extent.

It's almost like they knew what they were doing in the sixties.

 

[Mudd]

It is interesting that as time goes on, the designs get closer to the original, from the Kelvin films to Discovery and now SNW. And Picard to some extent.

It's almost like they knew what they were doing in the sixties.

Yeah, one reason I get frustrated with people decrying, say, the design of the JJprise as somehow disrespecting or abandoning Jefferies' brilliant designs is that every reworking of these designs, whether you particularly like a given one or not, are the ultimate homages to his work. After going on 60 years, a Trek spaceship bridge is more or less a circle of stations with the captain in the middle facing a big screen. Virtually every hero ship is a combination of a saucer with outboard engines and a second hull. Etc, etc and so forth.

There are Trek ships i don't like. But they all still honor Jefferies' work.

 

[Ronald Held]

At least replace the warp engines and struts at the end of the series.

 

[Mudd]

I don't love the struts. The warp engines are very cool, and should stay as they are.

 

[Tuskin38]

At least replace the warp engines and struts at the end of the series.

Please no. Those looks TOS pylons look flimsy as heck. I'd only like them straight if they keep the same thickness of the current ones, like how John Eaves's original concept art looked.

Plus it wouldn't make sense come the TMP refit, why would they go from slanted to straight to slanted again?

 

[BillJ]

Please no. Those looks TOS pylons look flimsy as heck. I'd only like them straight if they keep the same thickness of the current ones, like how John Eaves's original concept art looked.

Plus it wouldn't make sense come the TMP refit, why would they go from slanted to straight to slanted again?

They are both straight and slanted in DSC.

 

[Tuskin38]

They are both straight and slanted in DSC.

That was just an error, they used the wrong render on the computer panel.

 

[UssGlenn]

Plus it wouldn't make sense come the TMP refit, why would they go from slanted to straight to slanted again?

That's a minor construction issue that actually creates a bigger problem. When they change the angle of the struts, it changes the location of engineering

 

[BillJ]

That was just an error, they used the wrong render on the computer panel.

We see the TOS Enterprise in “If Memory Serves”.

 

[Tuskin38]

We see the TOS Enterprise in “If Memory Serves”.

Yeah because of reused footage.

 

[BillJ]

Yeah because of reused footage.

Okay? Straight pylons continue on in this timeline.

 

[Tuskin38]

Okay? Straight pylons continue on in this timeline.

That's like saying the Enterprise-D crew changes ships every time they use the 2 foot model over the 6 foot model. There's very notable differences between the models.

They're the same ship, they just look different depending on what production you're watching.

 

[Mudd]

This helps to get an overall sense of the differences in design - although the two models pictured are not in scale with one another:

 

[Mudd]

That was just an error, they used the wrong render on the computer panel.

We see the TOS Enterprise in “If Memory Serves”.

Yeah because of reused footage.

Okay? Straight pylons continue on in this timeline.

This is an unresolvable disagreement, and therefore meaningless, because all statements in this exchange are 100% true.

 

[Paul755]

This helps to get an overall sense of the differences in design - although the two models pictured are not in scale with one another:

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man, the TOS design really is the GOAT. They truly broke the mold with that one.

 

[Mudd]

I like the JJ version better in large respects than the SNW ship as such. But the artists had very different remits - these folks were directed to revise the original design; Church was hired to reimagine it.

 

[fireproof78]

Church did an amazing job.

 

[Ray Hardgrit]

This isn't the controversial Star Trek opinions thread, but I've got a couple of them for you anyway:

1. They should end the series right before the point where they'd have to commit to this being the look of the ship during TOS, so that everyone who wants it to look like this under Kirk is happy, and everyone who wants to assume that it looks just as it did is happy too. Absolute happiness for everyone.
2. The 2009 Kelvin Enterprise is beautiful.

 

[Tuskin38]

man, the TOS design really is the GOAT. They truly broke the mold with that one.

Then why did no future designs in the franchise remotely resemble it?