Spoilers The Strange New Worlds Starship Thread™

[Racefuel]

There is no torpedo bay at the bottom of the neck yet. The SNW Enterprise still fires torpedoes from the saucer, just above the ventral sensor dome.

Yep, I know...talking about the Refit/Connie 2's

 

[Dukhat]

The ship will just keep changing bit by bit without anyone pointing out why until it looks like in TOS/TNG/DS9/ENT/LDS/PRO/PIC in the last minute of the last episode

Except every time they’ve changed it, it looks less like the TOS/TNG/DS9/ENT/LDS/PRO/PIC version, not more.

 

[DEWLine]

Given its now canon, I want to see the USS Pioneer.

Also, one of the Radiant-class, and a Jeffries-fied version of the Shangri-La...

 

[Enterprise1701]

Also, one of the Radiant-class, and a Jeffries-fied version of the Shangri-La...

Relatedly, you know what I think would have been more impressive than the Sombra class? As a CG model nearly indistinguishable from the Constitution-I class, I cannot fathom why they wanted to do the Sombra class given the inherent visual perception problem.

Star Trek Online introduced a Constitution skin nicknamed by some as the Jefferies class, inspired by the conceptual Phase II interpretation which was refined to become The Motion Picture interpretation. Having orange but angular Bussard collectors on a 2260 stepping stone to the ~2273 Constitution-II class would be a great in-universe example of design progression!

https://www.arcgames.com/en/games/star-trek-online/news/detail/11365453

 

[Ronald Held]

Broken record poster wants to see it as it was in WNMHGB by the time Kirk takes over.

 

[Tuskin38]

Broken record poster wants to see it as it was in WNMHGB by the time Kirk takes over.

Keep dreaming.

 

[fireproof78]

Broken record poster wants to see it as it was in WNMHGB by the time Kirk takes over.

Perhaps in another timeline

 

[DEWLine]

Looks cool in its own right.

 

[Macintosh]

Star Trek Online introduced a Constitution skin nicknamed by some as the Jefferies class, inspired by the conceptual Phase II interpretation which was refined to become The Motion Picture interpretation. Having orange but angular Bussard collectors on a 2260 stepping stone to the ~2273 Constitution-II class would be a great in-universe example of design progression!

It's often been remarked that the Constitution refit from TMP makes a hell of a lot more sense as a refit of the Phase II version than it does the TOS version...

 

[Enterprise1701]

It's often been remarked that the Constitution refit from TMP makes a hell of a lot more sense as a refit of the Phase II version than it does the TOS version...

I really wish that back in 1979, they had simply retired the Enterprise (NCC-1701) to a museum and built a new Enterprise-A from scratch as the new class, especially considering the Enterprise (NX-01) also arguably qualifies to be named Enterprise class in a form. Then we wouldn't get a stupid 7-year Enterprise-A service with retirement for no reason. But we are stuck with the stupid TMP naming setup. sigh

 

[KirkusOveractus]

I really wish that back in 1979, they had simply retired the Enterprise (NCC-1701) to a museum and built a new Enterprise-A from scratch as the new class, especially considering the Enterprise (NX-01) also arguably qualifies to be named Enterprise class in a form. Then we wouldn't get a stupid 7-year Enterprise-A service with retirement for no reason. But we are stuck with the stupid TMP naming setup. sigh

I don't have it in front of me, nor do I remember what book I saw it in, but Matt Jefferies' early drawings for what becomes the TMP Enterprise has him suggesting it be assigned NCC-1701-A. I'm pretty sure I saw that on a drawing in the pre-production for Phase II in one of the books.

 

[Tuskin38]

I don't have it in front of me, nor do I remember what book I saw it in, but Matt Jefferies' early drawings for what becomes the TMP Enterprise has him suggesting it be assigned NCC-1701-A. I'm pretty sure I saw that on a drawing in the pre-production for Phase II in one of the books.

Memory-Alpha has it
Image credits say: "Constitution II-class 1977 Star Trek: Phase II preliminary designs by Matt Jefferies. (Star Trek Magazine issue 162, p. 27; The Star Trek Auction catalog, p. 14)"

https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wik...del#Designing_a_refit_Enterprise_for_Phase_II

The flat warp nacelles also date back to 1964 as a backup design if Gene didn't like the round nacelles

"Jefferies started work from a drawing he had actually prepared for the Original Series back in 1964, already showing the Enterprise with swept-back, flattened nacelles, to be presented to Roddenberry if he did not like the first version, appropriately annotated with the remark, "change power pods [note: as the nacelles were at the time still called, the terminology carried over from The Original Series] & struts only". (Star Trek: The Magazine Volume 2, Issue 8, p. 84) Jefferies later sold off his redesign sketches, together with the original alternate one, on 12 December 2001 in the The Star Trek Auction, in order to raise funds for the charity organization "Motion Picture and Television Fund"."

Constitution II-class original alternative design concepts by Matt Jefferies (The Star Trek Auction catalog, p. 13)

 

[KirkusOveractus]

Memory-Alpha has it
Image credits say: "Constitution II-class 1977 Star Trek: Phase II preliminary designs by Matt Jefferies. (Star Trek Magazine issue 162, p. 27; The Star Trek Auction catalog, p. 14)"

https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wik...del#Designing_a_refit_Enterprise_for_Phase_II

The flat warp nacelles also date back to 1964 as a backup design if Gene didn't like the round nacelles



Constitution II-class original alternative design concepts by Matt Jefferies (The Star Trek Auction catalog, p. 13)

Thank you! I think it's in the book about Phase II as well (a fantastic book!) There it is, "1701A". I knew I wasn't seeing things (then, anyway!)

 

[Ar-Pharazon]

Relatedly, you know what I think would have been more impressive than the Sombra class? As a CG model nearly indistinguishable from the Constitution-I class, I cannot fathom why they wanted to do the Sombra class given the inherent visual perception problem.

Star Trek Online introduced a Constitution skin nicknamed by some as the Jefferies class, inspired by the conceptual Phase II interpretation which was refined to become The Motion Picture interpretation. Having orange but angular Bussard collectors on a 2260 stepping stone to the ~2273 Constitution-II class would be a great in-universe example of design progression!

https://www.arcgames.com/en/games/star-trek-online/news/detail/11365453

I've always liked the Phase II designs. I still think those nacelles, inverted at the rear, inspired what they used on the Stargazer, Titan-A and other ships from that period.

 

[publiusr]

The spine having the nacelle supports is interesting.

Having the nacelles stand out a bit from the pylons we only saw on the Vengeance from-INTO DARKNESS

 

[Airmandan]

I always find it interesting how all the refit designs utilized the neck mounted torpedo launcher.

 

[fireproof78]

*Terry Crews* Never skip neck day.

 

[drt]

The spine having the nacelle supports is interesting.

I like that detail as well.

I always find it interesting how all the refit designs utilized the neck mounted torpedo launcher.

It was a phaser bank on the Phase II Enterprise. The idea was that the producers wanted to avoid how in TOS, because there were no defined phaser banks, the beans emanated from numerous points on the underside of the saucer because the optical effects guys had no point of reference.

 

[Airmandan]

I like that detail as well.


It was a phaser bank on the Phase II Enterprise. The idea was that the producers wanted to avoid how in TOS, because there were no defined phaser banks, the beans emanated from numerous points on the underside of the saucer because the optical effects guys had no point of reference.

That makes sense.

 

[Mudd]