No they took Eaves' visually rebooted the design, then modified that one into the Terran version.
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No they took Eaves' visually rebooted the design, then modified that one into the Terran version.
But what about the uniforms and ship design in Q&A that pre-dates The Cage?
There is a photo of Pike and April wearing the Cage-style yellow uniforms. It could just be an Easter Egg, but if one wanted to take it literally, then at least the Cage uniforms were used pre-DSC/SNW. As for the ship, however, it’s still patently absurd to think that it looked like it did in ‘The Cage,’ then was refitted to look like it does in DSC/SNW, and then refitted again back to how it looked in ‘The Cage’ and the rest of TOS. The use of the Cage footage in DSC was just for effect. It wasn’t meant to be taken literally.
Production errors due to limited CGI and physical assets. We have to disregard it like Seven flying a Type-6 shuttle in a few shots of “The Raven” or Captain Robau missing his badge in a few shots of Star Trek.
Just because you don’t like it doesn’t make it absurd. The looks changed due to refit from TAS to TMP. It can easily change back and forth between TOS - DSC - SNW - TOS. If works didn’t want to be taken literally they’d put in a disclaimer. Not seen that on any show.
Being fictional is the disclaimer. It assumes that audience members are willing to play along with the fantasy.
It has nothing to do with my personal opinion. There is nothing in the show that hints that this kind of refit happened other than using old footage that’s clearly not meant to be taken literally as far as how things look. CBS cares little about visual continuity; ergo they don’t need a disclaimer.
There is nothing indicating the ship magically transformed its look either.
Did I miss the memo that tells me what to take literally and what not? Because otherwise what happens on screen presents in-universe objective reality.
And despite the DSC1 exec trying to wreck visual continuity, designers snuck in era-appropriate communicators, phasers, etc. Thus, CBS cares about, or disregards, visual continuity as it sees fit. But until they set a show in the TOS era without alternate history caveat (“Quality of Mercy”), TOS holds. In all current game and comic outings, TOS looks intact. As do its references in Prodigy.
That wasn't what Bryan Fuller was trying to do. He was smart and knew TOS designs would not hold up.
Yet in STO, TAS, ENT, comics, PIC, Prodigy, the “last time on Star Trek” flashback, TOS look perfectly fine alongside newer stuff.
I’m fine with however one chooses to interpret this fictional show. But if one chooses to interpret everything they see on screen completely literally, then that interpretation is subject to logical scrutiny. And logically, I don’t see things happening with the ship the way it’s literally shown on screen.
If I take it literally then I will just be frustrated.
If I take it as drama then things can work out. At some point in time there is just taking the fiction way further than it was intended, trying to bend it to fit in a box it was never meant to occupy.
Why?
I don't know.
If I take it as drama then things can work out. At some point in time there is just taking the fiction way further than it was intended, trying to bend it to fit in a box it was never meant to occupy.
It's a huge issue for me. But apparently TMP should be accepted without question.
Why?
I don't know.
IMO, no it didn't.
It is the same ship before and after a refit, just with technical differences. They don't need to utter the word "refit" on screen to explain when the carpet gets changed on the Enterprise-D, for instance. We can tell its maintenance.
No. it means the set designers changed something.
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