Mouse gray, dust gray, stone gray, ash gray, lead gray,... but not that gray, more green gray into brown, a sort of brown gray with green, a brown green gray. Could be playing into blueish, or notes of a little red, a brown red, but gray overall. A greenish blue brown red gray.
DEFINITELY not concrete gray.
Completely different VFX and art teams though. The people who made the decision to use STO designs do not work on SNW.
Nope. It's just as canon as TOS.
I hate to say this, especially considering this forum, but none of it is real. None of it. Saying one is more real than the other is like saying that a plastic bottle of Heinz Ketchup is superior to a glass bottle of Heinz ketchup.I mean, the argument has been done to death, but it needs to be said that Star Trek TOS, TNG, DS9, ENT and PIC all have the same Constitution Class design, so they're the shows with the baseline "real" design and SNW/DSC is the non canon "visual retcon", 5 series saying it looks like it did in 1966 beat two shows that don't, especially since DSC also thinks things like Klingons are bald vampires with four nostrils, Andorians have forehead horns, Orions all look like bloated grey-green corpses, and many other visual things which no other show agrees with.In this case, the majority wins.
I mean I still like SNW a lot as a show despite the occasional weird quirks, and taken on its own the SNW Enterprise is gorgeous, but it will never be the "real" Prime NCC-1701 to me, visually speaking.
Here's my response kit:
Maybe it's the same as the Archer from Season 1.
There’s nothing in-universe that rules the ship’s rebuilding out. We see the classic Connie in ENT, present day comics and games alongside newer ships. It doesn’t need updating.
There's nothing canon in-universe saying it's a refit either.
Because Paramount doesn't enforce strict conformity.
That was the same class as the Archer from Season 1. And considering the Archer only had what, 3 crew? Then yes, it should be small.
It's essentially a TOS-era runabout, or maybe the Federation equivalent of the Klingon bird-of-prey.
We have eyes. We can see the Lakota and Rhode Island have different configurations from the baseline, too.
I have a feeling I may need to borrow a few of those these coming weeks.Here's my response kit:
Maybe it's the same as the Archer from Season 1.
Yes, we can see that going from 'Q&A', to 'The Cage' to DSC/SNW makes no damn sense in-universe.
The Terrans rebuilt the Connie from the 2260s style into an Eaves-type. Thus, the configuration changed between 2254 (“The Cage”) and 2256 (DSC). We have to disregard the appearances of ‘Q&A’ due to production/asset limitations. The TOS: Early Voyages series correctly depicts the Enterprise era-appropriate.
That’s how the ship and uniforms look like in 2254. The tech and outfits get changed. It fits together - i don’t see the problem?Explain the beginning of "If Memory Serves."
