Spoilers The Strange New Worlds Starship Thread™

[HotRod]

What King Daniel said. Also, those weird windows along the saucer's edge.

But most importantly: They look chrome & shiny! The Discoprise has that NX-01 blackness, like a ship from the alien-franchise.

The Discoprise isn't nearly as dark and metallic as people seem to think it is. Whenever it's shown in more direct lighting, you can really see her true colours.

I duplicated this look as best I could when I built a model of her and I think I did a pretty good job.

 

[Tallguy]

It's really the surfacing that does it no favors. I would still have some issues with the shape, but the surface has a Babylon 5 look. The JJ movies had a really crappy Enterprise but the surface looked like a 100% real object (and it should for the money that it must have cost.)

 

[Tuskin38]

But most importantly: They look chrome & shiny!

Only in the concept art, they used the same material as the Enterprise in the actual episodes.

 

[fireproof78]

Looks like an Enterprise.

 

[Rahul]

The Discoprise isn't nearly as dark and metallic as people seem to think it is. Whenever it's shown in more direct lighting, you can really see her true colours.

And even that, the most lit the ship has ever been, looks more "Voyager-grey".

I think the JJprise is the "greyest" white hull colour the ship should ever go to still be recognizable as the iconic TOS Connie.

Interestingly I absolutely like what they did with the shuttle - that bright, metallic look would have also fit nicely for the Enterprise.

 

[NCC-73515]

D'Arsay pictogram?

 

[Tuskin38]

Haha you fixed it the second I hit the quote button. So it looked fine in the text box but still broken if I scrolled up heh

 

[HotRod]

The one thing I wish we were getting is beauty shots and technical info from the behind the scenes people like we're getting for Picard. Between Dave Blass and Doug Drexler, our cup has runneth over with info about 25th century starships. I'd love to get this sorta info dump on the Enterprise, Archer, Farragut, etc.

 

[Tuskin38]

We did get a labelled diagram, similar to the Stargazer and Titan, for the Enterprise after DSC Season 2, but IIRC it was only in the eagemoss booklet, not posted online.

I found a neat fanmade one

 

[Tallguy]

So the cargo deck IS one of the most BS things we've ever seen on Star Trek? (And that's saying something!)

 

[Tuskin38]

I don't think it's BS at all.

 

[Tallguy]

I don't think it's BS at all.

Perhaps my impression of the size of that room is mistaken. But I don't think that three or four deck high area (at least!) that we see in Memento Mori (that is at least the size of engineering, right?) in any way fits under the shuttle deck in that diagram.

Of course, I gather that that schematic is from Disco, not SNW. But I don't see where they would fit that even knowing the episodes in SNW.

 

[Tuskin38]

Perhaps my impression of the size of that room is mistaken. But I don't think that three or four deck high area (at least!) that we see in Memento Mori (that is at least the size of engineering, right?) in any way fits under the shuttle deck in that diagram.

Of course, I gather that that schematic is from Disco, not SNW. But I don't see where they would fit that even knowing the episodes in SNW.

That's a fan made schematic. It's based off the SNW version, you can tell from how engineering is designed.

They probably didn't like the cargo bay either, or maybe it was made before we saw it.

 

[Tallguy]

Still, that puts that cargo door (that is part of the undercut undercut under the shuttle bay) at many decks tall.

 

[HotRod]

Still, that puts that cargo door (that is part of the undercut undercut under the shuttle bay) at many decks tall.

And? What's wrong with the Enterprise having a large cargo bay? Is it not possible that they may need to transport something larger then the small cargo containers we usually see?

 

[137th Gebirg]

I suspect whoever did the MSD simply forgot about the cargo deck.

 

[Mudd]

We did get a labelled diagram, similar to the Stargazer and Titan, for the Enterprise after DSC Season 2, but IIRC it was only in the eagemoss booklet, not posted online.

I found a neat fanmade one

This is awesome work.

 

[Mudd]

I'd expect the Enterprise at this scale to have a large multi-story cargo deck. Sort of the point of building those multi-story cargo bay doors into the concave tail of the ship.

 

[fireproof78]

We did get a labelled diagram, similar to the Stargazer and Titan, for the Enterprise after DSC Season 2, but IIRC it was only in the eagemoss booklet, not posted online.

I found a neat fanmade one

That's a lot of pipes.

 

[Dukhat]

And considering that no other plaque has ever had the ship's dimensions, this is just more evidence that CBS wants these numbers to supersede whatever was accepted in the past for the size of the NCC-1701.

It is just as canon. Furthermore, new canon supersedes old canon, so the ship is about 433 meters.

So I feel the need to return to my previous quotes, since we now have new information that the TOS Constitution class is 289 meters. This is clearly no longer a matter of 'new canon superseding old canon,' as I mentioned previously. There are two potential scenarios happening here. Either the SNW version gets refitted into the TOS version and shrinks 144 meters in length, or the ship we see in DSC/SNW has nothing to do with the TOS ship, even though they're *supposed* to be the same ship. Both scenarios are equally problematic, because the former makes no logical sense, and the latter is contradictory to the line CBS is toeing (i.e. that DSC/SNW takes place in the same 'prime' universe that TOS and PIC take place in.) It's no longer a matter of visual inconsistency that can be hand-waved away as 'artistic interpretation' or other such nonsense, because there is actual contradictory math at work here.