The Stargate Franchise - A First Timer's Watchthrough

[tomalak301]

Ex Deus Machina (SG-1)

Maybe it's the fact that I just saw 6 prior episodes beginning a really interesting storyline that has already raised some very fascinating discussion points, but I'm watching this one and I'm kind of rolling my eyes. For Example, the Gerak guy is an asshole. The disrespect Teal'c is getting after his struggle to free them is really confusing to me, and where is Bra'tac anyway. Actually, I don't understand why Teal'c is still going on missions with SG-1, considering the more time he spends with the Tauri the less time he has with the high council. Of course that could have been avoided by just making him Ambassador/Liason to the Tauri. Bra'tac can oversee what is happening with the Council and Teal'c can hop in from time to time. I think I know what they were going for with the whole corrupt politician angle, but it goes back to my original question. 7 Episodes in and Bra'tac is nowhere to be seen.

I think the thing that made me roll my eyes was hardest was Ba'al is still alive and he has clones. I mean for goodness sake end this storyline already. It also makes me wonder what the public is looking at when you have buildings in downtown Seattle being beamed away (A gas leak?) and Goa'uld cargo ships flying overhead. Where is Joe when you need him.

As you can tell, this is probably my least favorite episode so far. At least it gave Mitchell more to do, but this storyline is unintentionally funny, and that's not a compliment.

 

[USS Firefly]

If you think the Ori are unbeatable now, you ain't seen nothing yet. But I can't say much now because of spoilers.

Aren't you spoilering now?

 

[DonIago]

At least Ba'al never ceases to amuse me. Most of the other system lords were one-note snoozefests, but Ba'al's been fun to have around ever since "Abyss".

 

[tomalak301]

At least Ba'al never ceases to amuse me. Most of the other system lords were one-note snoozefests, but Ba'al's been fun to have around ever since "Abyss".

Ba’al is very entertaining but... clones?

 

[Jayson1]

Ba’al is very entertaining but... clones?

Don't worry. The show won't drop the Ba'al on this storyline.

Jason

 

[Romulan_spy]

Aren't you spoilering now?

No. I am teasing something about a future episode, not giving away any spoiler since I don't give any specifics.

 

[Farscape One]

Don't worry. The show won't drop the Ba'al on this storyline.

Jason

They do know how to handle their Ba'als...

 

[Romulan_spy]

Don't worry. The show won't drop the Ba'al on this storyline.

Jason

They do know how to handle their Ba'als...

To quote Daniel from New Order: "Don't. Every joke, every pun, done to death, seriously."

 

[The Wormhole]

Ex Deus Machina (SG-1)

Maybe it's the fact that I just saw 6 prior episodes beginning a really interesting storyline that has already raised some very fascinating discussion points, but I'm watching this one and I'm kind of rolling my eyes. For Example, the Gerak guy is an asshole. The disrespect Teal'c is getting after his struggle to free them is really confusing to me, and where is Bra'tac anyway. Actually, I don't understand why Teal'c is still going on missions with SG-1, considering the more time he spends with the Tauri the less time he has with the high council. Of course that could have been avoided by just making him Ambassador/Liason to the Tauri. Bra'tac can oversee what is happening with the Council and Teal'c can hop in from time to time. I think I know what they were going for with the whole corrupt politician angle, but it goes back to my original question. 7 Episodes in and Bra'tac is nowhere to be seen.

I think the thing that made me roll my eyes was hardest was Ba'al is still alive and he has clones. I mean for goodness sake end this storyline already. It also makes me wonder what the public is looking at when you have buildings in downtown Seattle being beamed away (A gas leak?) and Goa'uld cargo ships flying overhead. Where is Joe when you need him.

As you can tell, this is probably my least favorite episode so far. At least it gave Mitchell more to do, but this storyline is unintentionally funny, and that's not a compliment.

This is also the episode someone alluded to earlier in the thread when they said "the trailer spoils the episode." That is the trailers for this episode include the revelation that the office building itself is the bomb. You know, which doesn't get revealed in the actual episode until the last five or ten minutes.

 

[tomalak301]

Don't worry. The show won't drop the Ba'al on this storyline.

Jason

They do know how to handle their Ba'als...

I remember when Jack was first doing the Ba'al Puns in Abyss, I kind of expected more after that. They kept it as a minimum. Maybe it was for the best.

 

[DonIago]

Ba’al is very entertaining but... clones?

Well...I mean...they'd already done robots...

 

[David cgc]

The Jumpers aren't supposed to be operable by anyone without the magical Ancient gene, though that does get fudged with as the show progresses. Ford's escape from the city is one example. They could always go back for it if needed.

The Word of God reasoning behind that is that the Jumper (or the Atlantis Jumper Bay) has an autopilot system where if you dial an address in a Jumper with the door closed, it assumes you want to fly there, so it'll open the hatch, drop you down, and send you through, and the Jumper immediately landed and turned itself off on the other side, so Ford had to ditch it.

This is also the episode someone alluded to earlier in the thread when they said "the trailer spoils the episode." That is the trailers for this episode include the revelation that the office building itself is the bomb. You know, which doesn't get revealed in the actual episode until the last five or ten minutes.

Yeah, the writers were very irritated. I do sympathize with the promo team, though. "The bomb isn't in the building, the bomb is the building" is a line that was made for trailers.

 

[Farscape One]

Tomalak...

Now that you have seen 7 episodes with Cameron Mitchell, can you figure out the trait I was thinking of? Or should I ask after you finish season 9?

(Nothing spoilery, like I said before. Just a personality trait that may seem familiar.)

 

[tomalak301]

Now that you have seen 7 episodes with Cameron Mitchell, can you figure out the trait I was thinking of? Or should I ask after you finish season 9?

I think if I were to describe Mitchell at this point I would say hero worship? He played a role in helping SG-1 during the Antarctica incident and so wanted to be apart of the group. When they finally got back together, Mitchell was almost giddy at the excitement. I hope they do more with him though as I will say if I did have a criticism of season 9 so far, it's kind of become the Michael Shanks show.

 

[Farscape One]

Yes, hero worship is definitely one of the points. My main point was his character functions basically as if it was a member of the audience being part of the team. Mitchell studied EVERY SG-1 mission and file, to the point he quotes a lot from them. Totally the fan of the band, and I always liked that trait of Mitchell.

 

[fireproof78]

Ba’al is very entertaining but... clones?

I think it feels like a natural continuation of the obsession with immortality.

 

[Astra]

So nobody here has a problem with them making a guy who never has been through the gate before, the leader of the flagship team? Instead of someone who has done this on a regular basis for 8 years and had the experience? I don't want to stir any trouble, I'm just surprised, as that was one of the main complaints back then at Gateworld.

Would that even happen in the real world? Probably not.

From what I remember, the producers said they wanted to go back to the wonder, the newbie that sees everything for the first time. A bit like they had done with Jonas. But they could have done that with making Mitchell a new team member, not the leader.

It used to be that Jack was the guy who told Daniel to not push any buttons. When now Daniel has to tell the leader to not push any buttons (and he does anyway and trouble ensues) then something is very wrong I think.

It's interesting how many guest actors Arrow has had.

Teryl Rothery also was in Arrow and I regretfully have to admit that I did not recognize her. I mean, it has been a few years since I last saw her, and I am never good with people when they change hair style or color. I kept thinking, that I like this woman / actress very much, and then facepalmed when I made the connection.

If anyone ever has the chance to meet her, she is hilarious at conventions.

 

[JD]

It's interesting how many guest actors Arrow has had.

Almost all shows have a lot of guest actors, I can't think any shows that didn't have guest actors. Hell, even Gilligan's Island, which was about a group of people on a deserted uncharted island, still managed to find ways to bring in guest actors on a fairly regular basis.

 

[tomalak301]

Almost all shows have a lot of guest actors, I can't think any shows that didn't have guest actors. Hell, even Gilligan's Island, which was about a group of people on a deserted uncharted island, still managed to find ways to bring in guest actors on a fairly regular basis.

of course but it seems like the sci fi genre has this tight knit group of actors to choose from. They appear on so many different shows, Arrow seemingly being more prominent. It also helps that they are all in Canada anyway.

 

[Romulan_spy]

So nobody here has a problem with them making a guy who never has been through the gate before, the leader of the flagship team? Instead of someone who has done this on a regular basis for 8 years and had the experience? I don't want to stir any trouble, I'm just surprised, as that was one of the main complaints back then at Gateworld.

Would that even happen in the real world? Probably not.

From what I remember, the producers said they wanted to go back to the wonder, the newbie that sees everything for the first time. A bit like they had done with Jonas. But they could have done that with making Mitchell a new team member, not the leader.

It used to be that Jack was the guy who told Daniel to not push any buttons. When now Daniel has to tell the leader to not push any buttons (and he does anyway and trouble ensues) then something is very wrong I think.

I never thought about that before. I know "Avalon" tells us that as reward for saving SG1 in "The lost city", Mitchell got to pick his next assignment and since Mitchell is such a fanboy of SG1, he asked to get command of SG1. But you are probably right that would probably not happen like that in the real military.