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The Stargate Franchise - A First Timer's Watchthrough

Heroes

I was thinking about what I said earlier about this season feeling like it's not living up to the hype. I think one of the reasons I thought that was because there really hasn't been an episode to really "hit" me emotionally. I can think about episodes in the prior seasons that gave me a deep emotional response, like Windows or Opportunity which was a lot of fun, Changeling where you had Teal'c put his life on the line to make sure his master was still living, The Fifth Race with that incredible scene with Jack and Thor just giving me goosebumps all over the place, and 2001 which I still think is the best sequel/prequel I've seen in a long time.

This season really hasn't had that episode yet, until now. Heroes is one I was wondering why it was a two part episode. The first part was your typical Sci Fi Documentary episode like Final Cut (Battlestar) or A Constellation of Doubt (Farscape). It's usually played for laughs or just as a documentary kind of episode. In fact, I thought the highlight of the first part was the interview with Walter where he's talking about what he does and it's almost like the show poking fun at itself because, hey, we all love Walter and the way he says "Chevron 7, Locked" is endearing.

Then we get to the second part, and that hit me really hard. When Jack got hit, I was thinking well, maybe we won't know about his status until the finale because Richard Dean Anderson has looked for ways to cut back on the filming schedule. When we found out it was Dr. Frasier and that scene where she's saving the soldier's life, I actually started to tear up, and then I started to cry during the funeral scene. Dr. Frasier was such a great character, and you want to talk about strong woman characters, she was one of the strongest I've seen. She saved so many lives, took in a child from another planet, and she died doing what she was trained to do, save lives. Those scenes between Bregman and Daniel were equally as strong, talking about the situation in Vietnam and how the guy waited 25 years to tell his story when he realized it had to be told.

I know when you do shows honoring veterans, they could come across a little as patronizing. Hell, I've heard Top Gun be called the biggest air force recruitment video ever filmed. Even the first episode featuring Jennifer Hailey was labeled an air force recruitment video in some of the comments I read. This episode was everything but that. This showed the risks the men and woman of any military face every day just doing their jobs. I was sad Dr. Frasier was killed off, but this was excellently done. This is my favorite episode of the season so far.

I only had one minor quibble, and that was Cassie should have been at the memorial service. I wonder what happens to her now.
 
Spoilers people!
Just kidding. :)

I make fun of season 7, for good reason. I think it's clear that the first half is reused rejected stories from earlier seasons, but yeah the last few episodes. But. Poor Janet.
 
Resurrection & Inauguration

Resurrection was ok, kinda boring. I do applaud Shanks for writing and Tapping for directing though, but the plot about the Goa'uld hybrids and another NID rogue operation was just there for me.

Inauguration was a full fledged clip show, not even doing what Disclosure did last season which was further the plot. Basically the new President (I like William Devane) knows about Kinsey's actions. I will say one thing though and that is I like Picardo so much as an actor I hope Woolsey becomes a good character. I think he comes to Atlantis a few times but we'll see. I've liked him in both his episodes so far.

Next two episodes are Lost City. I'm excited. By the way, I was thinking about this doing my Sunday Quarantine Marathon, I'm going to do the Alternate approach for Atlantis and SG-1. Basically, I'm going to keep to the Sci-Fi Friday schedule, minus Battlestar Galactica and watch the two part episodes together. This should be interesting. That means I'm probably starting Stargate Atlantis on Friday. That's exciting. :angel:
 
I guess my question is of the episodes this season I've seen so far, are there any episodes I've been lukewarm about that fans absolutely love?
I got to admit, I found Enemy Mine and the Evolution two parter to be awesome, but you apparently just think they were average.
Teal'c in a computer game episode.
That's in season 8.
Inauguration was a full fledged clip show, not even doing what Disclosure did last season which was further the plot.
Inauguration is actually very important setup for the Lost City two parter.
 
I got to admit, I found Enemy Mine and the Evolution two parter to be awesome, but you apparently just think they were average.

That's in season 8.

Inauguration is actually very important setup for the Lost City two parter.

Yeah but that’s the only thing it did, let the team find the lost city. Now if there is more to it than that, than I can look on this episode more favorably.
 
Yeah but that’s the only thing it did, let the team find the lost city. Now if there is more to it than that, than I can look on this episode more favorably.
There's much more. Arguably some of the things Kinsey sets into motion in Inauguration will impact well into season 8.
 
Regarding alternating the seasons between shows...

I STRONGLY suggest watching the "NEW ORDER" two-parter at the beginning of season 8 before the ATLANTIS premiere. It puts things in better focus, and establishes a few things that might be spoilery if you watched SGA before doing SG-1.

And thinking further, it's also a good idea to finish season 8 before you watch the final two SGA season 1 episodes. A slight spoilery thing occurs if you don't see SG-1 first.
 
Inauguration has an interesting scene that that had to be intentional though I never read or saw any commentary about it. The very first(?) scene we see William Devane begins on a bust of JFK before panning up to a reflection of Hayes straightening his tie. Of course, Devane played JFK in 1974's The Missiles of October.
 
Hell, I've heard Top Gun be called the biggest air force recruitment video ever filmed.

You shouldn't listen to anyone that says that, as they don't know what they are talking about. Mav and Goose are very clearly (in their own words) not just pilots, but Naval Aviators :cool:

Might have given the Air Force a bump too, but it's a Navy movie all the way.
 
I STRONGLY suggest watching the "NEW ORDER" two-parter at the beginning of season 8 before the ATLANTIS premiere. It puts things in better focus, and establishes a few things that might be spoilery if you watched SGA before doing SG-1.

I was going to do that anyway, which is why I might be starting Atlantis tomorrow.

You shouldn't listen to anyone that says that, as they don't know what they are talking about. Mav and Goose are very clearly (in their own words) not just pilots, but Naval Aviators :cool:

Might have given the Air Force a bump too, but it's a Navy movie all the way.

I had a feeling I got two branches of the military confused. The same point remains though, only for the Navy and not Air Force.
 
I got to admit, I found Enemy Mine and the Evolution two parter to be awesome, but you apparently just think they were average..

I HATE, H-A-T-E, H A T E, the Unas storylines. First one was fine, but then they just kept going back. Of all the storylines to bring back they would be the last. They are eye rolling bad. Evolution is in my top 5 worst two parters, probably in Stargate history. So no I don't think either of those episodes are average, they are below average. Last time I rewatched the show I fast forwarded through good junks of Evolution.

Inauguration is good, it might be setup to the finale with some clips, but it's incredibly important character development in it.

And why would anyone watch Atlantis before New Order? Doesn't make sense. After New Order I'd watch season 1 of Atlantis right through to the season finale. But someone might have a better way to do things. I wouldn't bother switching back and forth though.
 
I HATE, H-A-T-E, H A T E, the Unas storylines. First one was fine, but then they just kept going back. Of all the storylines to bring back they would be the last. They are eye rolling bad. Evolution is in my top 5 worst two parters, probably in Stargate history. So no I don't think either of those episodes are average, they are below average. Last time I rewatched the show I fast forwarded through good junks of Evolution.

My main issue with Enemy Mine was it was all grunting. The Unas stories feel a lot more slow and tedious than most of the other episodes, even though I did like the one where Chaka was enslaved.
 
I was going to do that anyway, which is why I might be starting Atlantis tomorrow.

Yeah, it'll go "New Order" 1&2, "Rising" 1&2, and then alternating with SG-1 first then Atlantis for the rest of the season, though the synchronization doesn't tighten up again until the finale, where "Moebius" Part 2 has to come before "The Siege" Part 2. I'm sure there are more detailed timelines built on-line where fans have chunked SG-1 and Atlantis episodes based on ones with more continuous action versus ones with implicit gaps between them, and probably other factors, but one-then-the-other is how it worked originally. Those were the days.

Aw, and I just checked, and Amazon has the short version of "Threads." Oh, well, we'll tell you what you missed. My understanding is that the short version isn't as incoherent as the hour-long version of the season 2 BSG finale (which also got a special hour-and-a-half timeslot for its first run).
 
By the way, @tomalak301 I really enjoy reading your reviews. It is great to get the perspective of a newcomer to SG1. I will say that "The Lost City Part 1 & 2" and the season 8 premiere, "New Order Part 1 & 2" are fantastic back to back two parters. You are in for a real treat. They are epic and also introduce some big plot points for the series.
 
I'm just looking forward to getting to season eight. I started watching just before it came out, so I have the least familiarity with seasons 6 and 7 (which weren't in reruns when I was catching up, and I've still never sat down and watched the whole show to see every episode I missed), and I'm looking forward to having an opinion, or at least memory, of all the episodes, now.

I just remembered another episode thing; there was a production circumstance that lead to two episodes in season eight being reversed, and it wasn't corrected on the DVD or steaming, because why in God's name would you ever distribute a show in storyline order when you can just slap them together however they happened to end up airing due to some vagary that only mattered for that one week in history (yes, I'm still salty about TOS and the beginning of Voyager's last season and much of Babylon 5).

The episode "Covenant" should've aired before "Affinity," but they came out the other way around. "Covenant" introduces a thing that's in "Affinity," so it's a little confusing watching them in airdate order.
 
Aw, and I just checked, and Amazon has the short version of "Threads." Oh, well, we'll tell you what you missed. My understanding is that the short version isn't as incoherent as the hour-long version of the season 2 BSG finale (which also got a special hour-and-a-half timeslot for its first run).

It's not like Threads is one of the most important episodes in the show or anything. Why would a streaming service do that? Save time? :lol:
 
@tomalak301, if you are liking Amanda Tapping in the Stargates, I'd also recommend checking out Sanctuary, when you are done with them.
She was a star and executive producer, along with several of the writers and producers from the Stargates.
I'm a big fan of it, but you don't really hear much about it anymore these days.
In it she plays an immortal scientist who works with a secret group to help protect "Abnormals" which are basically monsters, like mermaids, big foot, werewolves, ect. It also works in a lot of almost steampunkish stuff involving real people and fictional characters from the Victorian era.
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