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Absolutely love Sesskasays. I've been subscribed ever since her reaction to The Three Doctors and I've been a patron ever since I wanted to get her early reactions to the final Clone Wars Arc. She's watching TNG for the first time on her patron page, but she doesn't provide picture-in-picture, which makes it awkward.
 
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No. I was specifically waiting for that once reality shifted. I didn’t spot a mention.
But I assume they will use gravity again from now on.
If they acknowledge it? Who knows…
I think it's better that they don't acknowledge. That was one of the things I liked about mavity. Just a background shift in reality that no one, even The Doctor, noticed.
 
Leo Bloom's reaction:

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"Max ... he's wearing a dress!"
 
What a mess of an episode. OMEGA was wasted as just another CG monster, echoes of last season's final.

Oh yeah and who's "The Boss" I wonder
The Timelords I'm betting.

For the record, I believe she is, but the fact she wasn't actually credited as "the Doctor" is going to be brought up in these discussions ad nauseum
Yeah, if she is the Doctor I think it's a mistake to not say so to avoid pointless discussions for those trying to justify that she isn't to suit their own agenda.
But with that said does it have something to do with the future of the show? Is season 3 even a go yet?

Sadly, the Billie Piper thing got spoiled for here me by careless comments in the RTD thread before it became a spoiler thread

However, I have to say it was also partially the fault of how certain people in this forum has unfortunately tilted towards digging up all of the spoilers and throwing them around all over the place, regardless of whether they're behind a spoiler box or not. The problem is the conversation around the spoiler boxes provide hints and connotations of what's being discussed and then soon enough, one can extrapolate what's being discussed whatever is behind the spoiler box without even looking in it. Feh. Water under bridge and all that but it's still annoying.
Same here. I didn't check the spoilers but thanks to people discussing the spoilers it was too easy to read between the lines and it was all spoiled for me.

Guys, if you are going to talk about spoilers then use spoiler boxes for everything. I don't even understand why major leaked spoilers need to get brought into conversations around here.
 
good actors, shit scripts’ territory
I feel like Who has existed (with some notable exceptions) in that space since Heaven Sent and its ability to coast on its legacy is faltering. We know British shows can roll on nearly indefinitely after the quality is gone (I'm looking at you, Call the Midwife), but trying to break big American streaming during a period of such coasting was particularly iffy.
 
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I feel like Who has existed (with some notable exceptions) in that space since Heaven Sent and its ability to coast on its legacy is faltering. We know British shows can roll on nearly indefinitely after the quality is gone (I'm looking at you, Call the Midwife), but trying to break big American streaming during a period of such coasting was particularly iffy.

I think it was about the Disney money. Apparently HBO had already paid for international/US rights to Who, and allegedly would have continued to have them for a few more series — so they rebranded to season one for the cash injection. It seems a little shady by the sounds of it, and hasn’t really worked out.
 
Interview with Billie Piper on Digital Spy


Relevant RTD quote…

Billie once changed the whole of television, back in 2005, and now she’s done it again!," added showrunner Russell T Davies. "It’s an honour and a hoot to welcome her back to the TARDIS, but quite how and why and who is a story yet to be told. After 62 years, the Doctor’s adventures are only just beginning.

So probably not the Doctor, just another expression of maximum fanwankery.

Is RTD the boy who cried Bad Wolf?
 
Watch the finale, then ask if that’s what happened.

I'm already aware that it's exactly what happened because of recaps.

I've also seen Fifteen's Regeneration via a video clip from YouTube.

Not having watched the episode doesn't make me ignorant of any of the details surrounding it.
 
I think it's better that they don't acknowledge. That was one of the things I liked about mavity. Just a background shift in reality that no one, even The Doctor, noticed.
Actually, the Doctor did notice. When Donna did first start saying mavity in Wild Blue Yonder, he gave her strange looks, and later in the episode when he said gravity, Donna got confused and asked "what did you say?" to which he answered "sorry, I meant mavity."
I'm already aware that it's exactly what happened because of recaps.

I've also seen Fifteen's Regeneration via a video clip from YouTube.

Not having watched the episode doesn't make me ignorant of any of the details surrounding it.
First rule of internet discussions: you don't take anyone seriously when they're talking about a show/movie they've admitted they haven't seen.
 
I have been very late to every one of these threads this season.

I've only seen one episode on release day this year. I think this this has been a very good season overall but have mixed feelings over the finale.

I liked the new Rani but she was wasted if that is the last we see of her.

I liked Belinda but the doctor killed himself and re-wrote her life entirely to save a version of a child that didn't exist. It felt wrong to me.

I very much enjoyed seeing Jodie Whittaker again, she was great but I don't know quite why she there.

Why did the TARDIS explode at the end of the Interstellar Song Contest?

I was please to see Anita and the Time Hotel, the episode felt very Moffaty to me, which I liked.

Is Billie Piper showing up anything to do with The Moment, probably not.

I think she would be a good Doctor though.

Overall I enjoyed the finale but won't be rushing to re-watch it.
 
The more I think about it, the more I genuinely believe the reshoots were uncessary and that Ncuti should've gotten a more appropriate, era-defining regeneration story of his own as a Christmas special - whenever that is to be.
 
The more I think about it, the more I genuinely believe the reshoots were uncessary and that Ncuti should've gotten a more appropriate, era-defining regeneration story of his own as a Christmas special - whenever that is to be.
I get the sense that the reshoots were forced on to the production by changing circumstances. Hopefully, more information will become publicly available. But I think some of the more jarring inconsistencies were produced by late changes.
 
I get the sense that the reshoots were forced on to the production by changing circumstances. Hopefully, more information will become publicly available. But I think some of the more jarring inconsistencies were produced by late changes.
That's why I was fuming over this fucking thing for nearly two days now. Its so jarring and inconsistent and annoyingly not cohesive, at all.
 
As much by dumb luck as anything else, I avoided spoilers beyond the rumours about the regen, and as a result...enjoyed it immensely!

Great performances, fantastic effects, thoroughly swept up in the energy. Yeah, the music was a little much at times, and some new cues wouldn't go amiss. Yeah, Omega being another giant CG creation was underwhelming. Yeah, the end of the Rani was a bit abrupt. And yeah, it did drag on slightly at the end. Do I really care, though? No, as I was having too much fun with the sheer experience of it all.

That, for me, is what RTD is after, has always been after: creating an experience. In that, in my opinion, he's succeeded far more often than not, including this time. Said it before, say it again: this is the most invested in Doctor Who I've been in ages. I almost literally lost my mind at Jodie's appearance, completely blindsided by it, and if a show can do that I think it's doing something right.

I wasn't so blindsided by Billie, because of those rumours, and still have no idea what to make of it. I have doubts, but I'm also doing my best to keep an open mind. A big worry was the reactions it'd get if it did happen, and those worries were justified.

I genuinely cannot understand the mindset of some, including some on this board. Being so negative about something, yet so fixated on it at the same time, to the point of leaping on every rumour and posting screeds about them. The level of confirmation bias can be bewildering at times. Why? Is your sense of self-worth tied up in proving you're right about the show's decline and fall? Did RTD personally offend you and now you're directing all your energies toward bringing about his ignominous downfall?

Ncuti may be gone, but the Doctor is clearly carrying on, with so many threads left dangling; we just don't know how, or when. I, for one, am content to wait and see, not fixate on spoilers and my expectations, and then wonder why I don't enjoy it when what I knew was gonna happen happens, and my expectations inevitably aren't met.
 
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