Like when in a not-scifi tv series they shows someone from Pakistan with multiple wives. It's not like the authors are taking a stance to legalize polygamy in the Western World.
The Outcast and the limits of metaphors
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It was still the 60s
!Joking aside, Wikipedia says that lesbian erotica became mainstream only the 80s. Before that, just softcore and similar.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lesbian_erotica
There are no lesbians in the "real' world, so it's safe to let your children watch this children's show.
It's a very god children's show, and it's made for adults, but mostly, in the beginning, either children watched it, or adults watched it who watched Kirk as a child.
All these other earlier programs with the representation in them were made for adults.
What I thought was most meaningful in that episode was that Jadzia actually made the choice to go with Lenara, despite the penalties. We see Jadzia waiting for her former spouse; it's Lenara who turns away. I suppose it's ultimately meaningless, since Lenara's choice made Jadzia's moot, but still....I had really thought that they would find a way to keep her from having to make the choice at all.
But again, making the affected characters Trill does change the look of the message somewhat. (And I don't mean by covering it in spots.
)Or, a bit more harshly....
And often slammed for that.
Yes that was a flaw.
Sure but a lot of Trek does too, most comes to mind the Kirk/Uhura kiss in "Plato's Stepchildren" being compelled.
Yes the there had already been gay characters in All in the Family and MASH in the '70s point doesn't mean "The Outcast" being bolder and more direct wouldn't have still been more groundbreaking than most television in its time.
Fair enough.
Back to TNG – another erotic woman/woman scene was Deanna and Beverly exercising together while talking about sex, in “The Price.”
It surprised me that Trek was considered a children’s show in the UK….so was it aired alongside Saturday morning cartoons? I read that 4 episodes of TOS were banned for years --Miri, Plato's Stepchildren, The Empath, and Whom Gods Destroy. Interesting that they banned TNG “High Ground,” also “Conspiracy” but had no problem with “The Outcast.” Admirable actually, IMHO.
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Mirror Ezri was never joined, so mirror Dax was never shown as bi.
Well, he didn't seem too bright.
And was much more easily angered.
Didn't PrimeBashir even suggest that he might have turned out reasonably fine without augmentation in the end?
As someone with likely a mild case of Asperger's, I likely manifested such much more noticeably when I was younger, but as I grew older (and became aware of my situation), I developed adaptations.
My point being that we don't really know what an Unaugmented version of PrimeBashir might have looked like, but it might have looked somewhat more like MU Bashir.
As someone with likely a mild case of Asperger's, I likely manifested such much more noticeably when I was younger, but as I grew older (and became aware of my situation), I developed adaptations.
My point being that we don't really know what an Unaugmented version of PrimeBashir might have looked like, but it might have looked somewhat more like MU Bashir.
A murder victim? Certainly not.
Bashir was saying to his dad that he already figured Julian was a failure at 5 years old, and didn't give him a real chance. He may be right. Mirror Universe Bashir might be the only gauge we have, though I'm hesitant to call him a decent barometer of any kind for comparison.
As someone with a mild to moderate case of same, and a former special educator and current special ed bus driver; I can tell you that Bashir's issues, as described, were more likely either being a slow learner (a person with an IQ between 75 and 90) or having a learning disability.
He was pissed off, he was scruffy looking, and he was otherwise completely forgettable.
You are incorrect. The first same-sex kiss occurred on tv in 1979. (Dan Aykroyd and Garrett Morris in "The Pepsi Syndrome" as part of an SNL skit. This would also make it the first interracial same-sex kiss.)
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