THE ORVILLE Season Two...

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  1. tharpdevenport

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  2. ITDUDE

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  3. Serveaux

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    "So many people I haven't insulted..."
    That's a quirk of the search engine. If you reverse the order of the names in your question you get entirely different and more ambiguous results:
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  4. Enterprise is Great

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    Just a little over 2 and a half hours of music...nice.
     
  5. tharpdevenport

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    Obviously you have to take things with a grain on salt sometimes on IMDb, but the Trivia page for the new episode "Home" -- if true -- clears up what happened here:

     
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    "So many people I haven't insulted..."
    Yeah...this is IMDB bullshit. If she and MacFarlane were an item, she's since moved on from that. Lately she's been dating Charlie Puth.

    The fact is, after the show went on hiatus last season she went on to shoot a movie, The Last Summer, which conflicted with the series shooting schedule. We might get excited about it, but a show like The Orville is a stage in the career of someone like Sage. Clint Eastwood was once a supporting character on Wagon Train.
     
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  8. tharpdevenport

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    Well, you got some things confused. Firstly, the IMDb entry can still be true. She may have been with Seth and not moved on at the time the new rule came into play.

    And secondly, Clint Eastwood as a main co-lead and he was on that for eight seasons. Surely Sage can do more than one, plus it's the "Im too good for this" syndrome; we've seen this in television before. It mostly leads to being forgotten.

    Plus, you're thinking of "Rawhide", not "Wagon Train".
     
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  9. Serveaux

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    Uh-huh. Yeah, an IMDB entry that "may be true" is pretty definitive.

    Explain the "new studio rules" again, please? With specifics? And wIth sourcing other than an IMDB entry?
     
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    Speaking of Halston Sage, on my DVR, her named appeared in the credits for the January 20 episode of the new Magnum P.I., titled "Winner Takes All".
     
  11. Serveaux

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    Yeah, I see that upcoming.
     
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    He was the "second" lead. Eastwood became "the" lead after Eric Fleming left the show about a year or two before "Rawhide" went off the air.
     
  13. tharpdevenport

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    I didn't say it was definitive.

    Explain what rules? I didn't list any and such rules wouldn't be public anyway. Plus, I cited a trivia item I said to take with a grain of salt.

    Are you even really paying attention to what I'm writing? Seems like combative for the sake of being combative because I poked out hole in your response, including factually getting the name of a TV series confused with another.
     
  14. Serveaux

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    "So many people I haven't insulted..."
    Found an old article on StudioDaily that clarifies the show's use of an old-school physical model of the Orville itself. I'd been curious about this, since one of the show's CG artists had said in passing on FB that every shot he'd seen of the ship in the series was actually of the CG mesh version.

    The piece also mentions that the show's main CG house is actually owned by FOX, which brings up a point about how these shows are budgeted versus what they really cost the studio. There are a lot of reasons for the network to renew a show that's owned by its parent company, and one of them is that many of the expenses of such shows are in essence the mother corporation moving money from one of it's own pockets to another.
     
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    It's horseshit. If there's some kind of network rule forbidding cast members from having relationships then why are Adrianne Palicki and Scott Grimes both still on the show despite the fact the two of them are dating each other?
     
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    "So many people I haven't insulted..."
    Exactly so. This is the kind of nonsense rumor that falls apart as soon as you give it more than two seconds thought.
     
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    So are the ratings low or are they "Low" like the latest season of "Doctor Who" where they aren't great but it's been overplayed for reasons other than accurate reporting?

    Jason
     
  18. Serveaux

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    Leaning toward the latter.

    Here's the great on-line ratings game ( and I speak as one who plays both sides of it):

    • Poster A reports supposedly ominous news about a show's ratings;
    • Poster B attempts to put the dire figures into some relevant business context;
    • Poster A, or C, gloatingly accuses B of excuse-making or sugar-coating.
    I was prepared for this show to be cancelled in its first year and am gratified that it wasn't. I'm pretty sure that the strength of MacFarlane's relationship with FOX is oversold with respect to such business decisions, and suspect that the same may be true of the tax credit situation. I think that the importance of the parent company's ownership stake in the show, OTOH, is somewhat undersold.

    What I'm sure is that they've made eight or nine more of these and I'm going to enjoy them. I hope to see it continue next year.
     
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  19. The Wormhole

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    Totally. Family Guy is still on the air despite MacFarlane's wishes to end it a few years ago. American Dad hasn't been on Fox for years, and The Cleveland Show was cancelled altogether.
     
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    Wow, that's not a pairing I would have expected.
    Even before I knew that I found this rule very hard to believe. There are just way to many shows with cast members who are married, dating or who dated that I would believe anybody would try to set up a rule like that.