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THE ORVILLE S2, E14: "THE ROAD NOT TAKEN"

Where does that idea come from? If MacFarlane had enough pull to make Fox dance to his tune to keep him happy they would have:
-Ended Family Guy a few years back when he wanted to end it
-Still air American Dad
-Still air The Cleveland Show

One should also take note Fox was the only network not to be in attendance when MacFarlane recently got his star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame, which he himself even noted in his acceptance speech. Oh, let me guess, that was by his request and they're that desperate to keep him happy?
Exactly so. MacFarlane's influence at Fox is exaggerated at best.

That said, according to the trades he's in great demand out there as his current contract is expiring.
 
Where does that idea come from? If MacFarlane had enough pull to make Fox dance to his tune to keep him happy they would have:
-Ended Family Guy a few years back when he wanted to end it
-Still air American Dad
-Still air The Cleveland Show

One should also take note Fox was the only network not to be in attendance when MacFarlane recently got his star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame, which he himself even noted in his acceptance speech. Oh, let me guess, that was by his request and they're that desperate to keep him happy?
Fine - looks like Orville renewal is screwed then.
 
There's always the very slight possibility it could move over the Hulu.
 
Tom Costantino, associate producer and lead editor on The Orville, is pretty active on both Twitter and Reddit and has said a few oblique things about renewal in the last week or two.

So, MacFarlane is in the process of negotiating a new contract. Obviously, if the studio doesn't hold on to him...
 
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Here's something delightful: some fans are planting trees in support of an Orville renewal:

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Better than that "send 'em a jar of pickles" idea.
 
It would have been fun to spend more time with the rebel crew. That's my take away.

It is still out there--just with a different crew.

Top-five episode in both stupidity and entertainment. Part Firefly, part Empire Strikes Back, Part “Timeless” from Voyager.

And it all worked. I liked the rattletrap ship. I want to see more of it.
I don't want everything spelled out for me, but I think in this instance, we should have seen Finn leave herself a message for the seven years from now Finn to take into account for Kelly's brain chemistry :)

Kelly didn't age, since the young Kelly just got the injection she needed. But leaving herself a message would also allow her to share the Kaylon connectivity...maybe tell them to sleep?

SPOILERS FOLLOW

Black hole time dilation - the shuttle must be capable of infraluminal speed (it has a quantum drive) - that was a jaw-dropper bit.

In some Trek novels, we have starships going inside them--just not too near the singularity

And, the huge whonking ship itself!!

In that timeline, the Kaylon just pretty much threw it away and forgot about it. Thus it was also less scarred than the Orville from our timeline--that was damaged worse.
 
Okay, finally got around to watching it, and thought it was rather disappointing. Kind of strange actually, because it was a fun episode and I'm totally on the Ed&Kelly back together train, but there was so much of it that just plain didn't make a lick of sense.

Strangely, I think I'm okay with the black hole part. Well, sort of. Though the shot of them looking at light and particles or whatever being sucked down into the middle of it didn't make a lick of sense. That does not compute. Since, you know, they were past the point where light could move outwards. They should not have been able to observe anything. But at least the general idea that if you have a ship that can go faster than light, then you can escape from somewhere that light cannot. On the face of it, that makes sense.

A lot of the rest of the episode, while fun and entertaining, just kept bothering me every few minutes when something else that didn't make sense would pop up again and again.

Also, without saying too much, I find myself wishing I would have watched it before watching Avengers Endgame.

I don't know. Like I said, I did quite enjoy most parts of it, it was a fun story. But it really fell apart as soon as you think about it for more than half a second. And while I understand that there are time limitations and cast limitations and whatnot, when I'm watching a science fiction show, sometimes I can only overlook so much.
 
I stopped watching when he fully jumped onto the "Discovery isn't true Star Trek, but Axanar is real Trek that Trekkies want" train.

I don't mind discovery, but I would have liked it more if the ships uses the modernized Tos aesthetic that Axanar did. The ares is the one thing they did right. (Should have taken that federation TV and news service idea and ran it til the wheels fell off)
 
Yeah, the majority of entertaining science fiction out there is not realistic at all. Just something you got to roll with. And before anyone brings up The Expanse, though it does generally get more right than your typical space opera, it's nowhere near being the Scientist's Bible everyone makes it out to be.
 
Too easy. But as well all know, those youtube sometimes-troll channels all dictated people go vote "Orville". DSC wouldn't stand a chance either way. But it's not like casual audiences are going to go find any poll and vote for a TV show.

And it's hard to say which one is truly more original; DSC tries to be a prequel and introducing all of TOS' villains and cheesy sci-fi (generally as token fanservice, and too early in the show's run to have any gravitas, especially regarding Captain Evil or shlock like walking around a sufficient portion of a planet's surface to draw a Starfleet logo to be recognized by the ship (not a bad idea but the execution falls flat once science so basic kicks in that makes suspension of disbelief impossible as they're walking an outline that has to be high enough to be recognizable (e.g. a tri-state area) yet low enough so the ship doesn't crash yet still see the logo before all that wind covers up-- sigh...)) and new sci-fi made by writers of 25 year old sci-fi that use similar tropes but take them in new directions with new concepts that remain sufficiently credible as well (2D space (think of all the 2D beings Mercer and crew flattened while there!), flying near a black hole by using the FTL engines to compensate, dark matter, etc, etc, etc). Though I prefer season 1 over 2 (not as rabidly paced given the undeserved episode limitation), "Orville" is definitely fresher. Even with its filler episodes (e.g. the cell phone and take the whiz episodes) which proves a season can have 30 or 10 episodes, filler will always exist.

And, yes, while season 1 is overall better, nothing beats "Identity" (part 1 only, pt 2 (even more than regarding the finale, which was very good overall) was rushed to such eyerolling lengths that if the eye was a bowling ball one would score a perfect 300 game) in terms of the best payoff in recent history. Like Cylons on steroids and are nothing like the Borg...
 
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