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Spoilers The Matrix Resurrections discussion and reviews

How do you rate The Matrix Resurrections?

  • 10: The One

    Votes: 5 9.8%
  • 9: Neo. I believe

    Votes: 5 9.8%
  • 8: Dodge this

    Votes: 9 17.6%
  • 7: Have a cookie

    Votes: 10 19.6%
  • 6: All I'm offering is the truth. Nothing more.

    Votes: 9 17.6%
  • 5: The blue pill or the red one?

    Votes: 5 9.8%
  • 4: Everything that has a beginning has an end

    Votes: 1 2.0%
  • 3: Never send a human to do a machine's job

    Votes: 2 3.9%
  • 2: I know this steak doesn't exist

    Votes: 1 2.0%
  • 1: The prohecy was false

    Votes: 3 5.9%
  • 0: Goodbye Mr. Anderson

    Votes: 1 2.0%

  • Total voters
    51
We know the Machines have access to Fusion and they must be able to harness geo thermal energy like Zion does. They have no need for Humans as a power source so why are their power plants failing?

I would of rather had the Machine Civil War due to one side not trusting Humans eventually attacking them after being set free versus the ones who want to live in harmony with us. Not about the need for energy supply.
 
Yeah, I loved the fuck out of it. Lots of meta ideas (especially the commentary on corporate pseudo-innovation predictably based on safe and repeatable rather than thinking outside the box), a direct shot at modern consumer culture, and the appeal of "normalcy" in the face of uncertainty, and the culture of oppressed sameness instead of fighting to truly be free because it might change things, and people fear change.

I loved everyone in it, Bugs is certainly my favorite new character, but WOW was it awesome to see Neo and Trinity, especially Trinity, back in full form and breaking the mold they'd been subject to for so long.

Great job, Lana. This one's going in the collection.
Pretty much this. I went in with little knowledge or expectation and was pleasantly surprised. For the record, I liked all 3 previous movies. :hugegrin:

An easy 8. Loved it, but much like when I saw Cloud Atlas the first time, I knew a lot of people wouldn't.

Deconstructing the myth of the sequel is one of those subgenius "people will pay you to tell you what they already know" things but it works, anyway.

I found it interesting that the "Suits"' contingency plan if Neo or Trinity died was to revert to the late 90's matrix. I suppose without a Neo that one could persist. The Suits' domain had been benefitting from misrule of Niobe. She's doesn't rise to antagonist. She doesn't rise to anything. I already said "She sold out humanity for a strawberry" before someone in the movie said the same thing. She got complacent. She got secure and comfortable, and turned her back on all the coppertops still stuck in the Matrix that might have wanted out.

It's easily the most optimistic sci fi movie in awhile. Humans got themselves in the mess they were in by treating AI like slaves, but in the end, being able to re-engineer extinct life with synthiant help left the possibility that the planet could be restored one day.

Could have done without the Merovingian. His only purpose previously was the information he brokered. Now he was just a broken down boomer railing about social media. Maybe that was the point.
Agreed on all points. I saw the Merovingian as anyone of any age who automatically goes to "the original was better" when confronted with anything new.

It's meta without breaking the fourth wall. It expands on the worldbuilding - Machines diversifying, fighting one another, some joining the Humans. It felt very Treklike to have the Mnemosyne's organic crew, and Neo!, treat their artificial crewmates as friends. Neo and Cybebe forehead-cuddle is a powerful and heartwarming moment.
Yes! I really loved the whole idea of Neo and Trinity changing the world in a different way than they expected, because that's life. We usually never know how our actions effect others. I'm lucky enough to have had a friend tell me how just being myself inspired them to be themselves. I'd never have guessed!

Except if they are just proof of concept, why are they necessary to the functioning of the system? The film hinges on the idea that with the two of them removed the "New" Matrix will break down and collapse, requiring a reset to a previous version in order to maintain integrity.
I think it's because The Analyst uses the insights he gains from studying their minds to keep refining the Matrix.

The only other question they didn't quite answer is: Was the Analyst a brand new program, or was he an evolution of the Architect of the original Matrix (who had created the five previous versions of The Matrix)?
I believe he's a new program that replaced the Architect.

  • I really did like the reference to the way the Matrix is able to take even things that are benign and pervert them into yet another system of control, and how frightening and infuriating that is. (As a socialist, it reminded me of capitalism's ability to co-opt radical movements and turn them into new ways to preserve itself.)
  • Vox media critic Emily VanDerWerff has a really remarkable essay about The Matrix Resurrections's relationship with the therapeutic practice known as cognitive processing therapy, and how Neo's relationship with the trauma of his past in this film spoke to her as she's been working to reintegrate the traumatic events of her past into her life today. It's a really amazing essay that helped me see a new level of depth to this film, and I think everyone should read it. Also, Emily VanDerWerff is a national treasure.
Yes, I loved that too. IRL, companies find ways to merchandise everything, stripping things of their original meaning(s) in the process. It drives me nuts!

Thanks for the essay! It helped me see why parts of the movie resonated so strongly for me.

Additionally, I *adored* how Trinity (and Bugs and Lexy) were treated in this movie! Not just "hot badass chicks in leather" but more fully realized humans. I also loved seeing a woman my age finding and taking her power.
 
I wish that we were getting sequels and another Animatrix to expand on some of the changes. I'd love to see a story about the first machines to side with the humans or the founding of IO, I like to think that it's on the same site as the first machine city Zero One.

There was just so many things I loved about the movie. But just the love that Lana has for the characters of Neo and Trinity is palpable. That they're able to see themselves and each other as they really are despite the false appearances assigned to them by the Matrix was a wonderful detail. I really liked that both of them are The One, building on how Trinity's love is what made Neo the One and guided his actions throughout the sequels.
 
I did enjoy this, but I did have one complaint.

Jonathan Groff's Agent Smith I could not take seriously. For some reason, I kept picturing him as Dennis Reynolds from It's Always Sunny In Philadelphia playing Agent Smith :lol:
 
I did enjoy this, but I did have one complaint.

Jonathan Groff's Agent Smith I could not take seriously. For some reason, I kept picturing him as Dennis Reynolds from It's Always Sunny In Philadelphia playing Agent Smith :lol:

Yeah, my only true complaint is that I felt that both Jonathan Groff and Neil Patrick Harris had public personas that were too strong for me to feel like they were truly becoming the characters they were playing. I felt like I was watching King George from Hamilton and Barney from How I Met Your Mother.
 
I'd like to see Matrix move away from Neo/Trinity. I'd love to see a TV show set during the creation of AI and the War that followed with the ending seeing the creation of the Matrix as our prison. Basically Caprica but Matrix.
 
I'd like to see Matrix move away from Neo/Trinity. I'd love to see a TV show set during the creation of AI and the War that followed with the ending seeing the creation of the Matrix as our prison. Basically Caprica but Matrix.
Taking The Matrix and mining it for traditional sci fi stories completely misses the purpose of these movies. It was never really about the story you see on screen...
 
I'd like to see Matrix move away from Neo/Trinity. I'd love to see a TV show set during the creation of AI and the War that followed with the ending seeing the creation of the Matrix as our prison. Basically Caprica but Matrix.

They already covered that with "The Second Renaissance, Parts I & II" in The Animatrix (2003).
 
I loved this movie so much. It was pure 'Memberberries but they're like my favourite thing. The callbacks were so well done, very stream of consciousness. The moment where Smith yelled "Mister Andersooooon!" and it cut back and forth between Hugo Weaving's version and Jonathan Groff was genius. The end, with people diving out of windows and off roofs to torpedo Neo and Trinity? Holy shitballs. Plus, 50something lovestory.

The only weird thing is that Neo made a videogame Matrix trilogy but every clip of it shown was clearly from movies not games. Perhaps they just had the biggest budget 90's style FMV sequences ever and we never saw gameplay.
 
I absolutely loved the fuck out of this movie. Watched it yesterday, and honestly will probably rewatch somewhere this week. I'm not to write long essays as movie reviews, but I'll just say that for me, this was a great movie that works with the story and concept of the original trilogy
 
I quite liked a lot of Reloaded, but Resolutions always left me cold, and it was a disappointing end for me.

So I finally saw Resurrections, and enjoyed it for the most part, and gave it a 7. I really loved the ending, and it left me with a better feeling than Resolutions. ;)

The film had some great meta moments in the first half, and there were lots of great quips from characters that were funny.

I felt a bit unnecessary, but I enjoyed it for what it was.
 
Finally saw this, borrowed from the library. There's usually a long waiting list when I reserve a recent movie DVD from the library, but there was no wait at all for this, so I wonder if that says something about its reception by the audience.

Anyway, I thought it was reasonably good for the most part. Obviously very meta and self-referential, but that was good in its way, because it wasn't just trying to copy the original formula but was doing something different with its elements. And in some ways, it critiqued the originals' mindset, by challenging the concept of binaries like humans-vs.-machines. Really, I'm surprised they didn't do more with that theme. It's always been a trans narrative, but it doesn't have to be as coded now as it was then. I thought there'd be more with Smith as the embodiment of the binary mindset, countered by the heroes arguing for a more flexible way of defining things. And I thought Smith would end up changing sides to symbolize the rejection of the binary. There was a temporary alliance, but it didn't stick.

I did love it that humans and machines are now coexisting, and I wish we'd gotten more with the synthients. Kujaku in particular was beautiful. (The name is Japanese for peacock.) Jessica Henwick, Yahya Abdul-Mahteen II, and Neil Patrick Harris were all excellent.

Unfortunately, I found a lot of the story vague and hard to follow. I didn't think it was made very clear just what the threat was, or what the stakes were, beyond Neo saving Trinity. Something to do with the Analyst having his own Matrix, but it was all kind of abstract. When they unplugged Trinity, I had no idea what they were trying to do by plugging in Bugs in her place. And the action climax that followed made no sense to me at all. I had no idea whether the mass attack against the heroes was the will of the Analyst, Smith, or something else. Smith seemed to have blown the Analyst apart and taken over, but then Smith suddenly turned into someone else who said "What just happened?" and then Smith wasn't there anymore. So I had no idea which of them was behind the attack. It's a badly written action climax when the viewer doesn't even know who the heroes are fighting or why. I also literally couldn't tell which side the Merovingian and his allies were fighting for in the climax. And I didn't understand why Neo and Trinity had to stay in the Matrix and go through that huge chase and shootout, when Neo had said just minutes earlier that there were people waiting to unplug him at a moment's notice. Why not just unplug both of them?

And in retrospect, I agree with earlier comments in this thread that the action sequences were fairly cursory compared to what I expect from a Wachowski production (though with the usual excess of gunplay which is my least favorite aspect of their work). The whole thing seemed dingy and low-budget compared to the slick originals.
 
I didn’t know you could borrow movies at libraries.
Considering movies like Matrix are on streaming services, I could see why there would be no waiting list for it.
 
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