Discussion in 'Star Wars' started by JD, Mar 18, 2022.
Wow, that was great!
Wow. That’s how to stick a damn landing in under an hour.
I liked and enjoyed it. I guess it was just a bit too straightforward perhaps. No twists, no revelations, no surprises really, no shocks. I wasn’t expecting another Luke Skywalker or whoever cameo, and really gotta try not to compare it to the s2 finale. But yeah.. just a little bit *too* simple and neat for me. I would have liked just a little more edge maybe.
I really liked it but I feel it's sad that there wasn't more with Dr Pershing. I hope we see him in future things, though - it feels like Coruscant will continue to be featured.
In some way, I wondered why I haven't liked the recent season of Picard but really loved this season of Mando. Why was one fan service bad for me (I think because it suggests mass incompetence in a way that isn't good for the universe at all, and just had an element of pizza sinkery), whereas the fan service of Mandalorian I've really liked (eg the incompetence in the new republic works since it fits with an already established narrative and actually makes something which didn't work, namely the fall of the new republic and the first order, work a bit better now; the same with the imperial remnant continuing to be malevolent)? Still pondering this - is it also because I care a lot more about trek world building? But I guess it's also because the empire and imperial remnant has been the behind the scenes villain each season, so it works there too.
And overall Mando just is better than Picard, even if it itself pales in comparison to Andor (and SNW!).
My life has been a bit… complicated of late so it was just what I needed at this time. I really liked the shield gauntlet, pretty kickass.
Well that felt an awful lot like a series finale! I know Jon Favreau has said he's already written season 4, but this is clearly meant to tie-off all existing threads and conclude the story that began in season 1. Whatever comes next for these characters, it'll be a new chapter.
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Told you lot the other spy in the last episode was the probe droid! And here you were all getting paranoid about moles and turncoats!
Not that it matters in the slightest, or that I care at all; but it's funny how a few episodes back those jetpacks ran out of juice chasing an animal to it's nest, but here they can make low orbit.
Kinda surprised the kaiju didn't come back into play. I figured they'd end up leading or driving it back to the Imperial base or something. Now it feels even more pointless!
I still have an irrationally intense appreciation for TIE Interceptors docking and launching batwing style. My inner 12 year old approves.
Imperial ships really need better point defence systems. You'd think they'd learned by now that focusing on slower heavier guns for ship-to-ship or ship-to-surface engagement does no good against highly mobile starfighter attacks. Part of me wonders if Palpatine made his forces a bit shit on purpose. Since their only advantage is sheer numbers, no single Moff or Grand Admiral could command the loyalty of enough forces to stage a effective revolt.
Din getting captured seemed to resolve itself a little quickly, though I'm a little annoyed that Bo didn't seem to notice Grogu wasn't with her.
On the plus side, at least it served to strip Din of his weapons so he can go all Solid Snake 'on site procurement' mode. Going from shield-to-shield upgrading along the way as the other guards are forced to watch what's coming is a great sequence.
Arfive vs. a horde of mouse droids. Honestly I thought he was done for. Those things are way tougher and more intimidating that he is. Also I like how the foley for anytime he does something just sounds like someone kicking around a metal waste bin. A funny contrast to the solid and precise mechanical foley they usually give Artoo.
OK, I think I misunderstood things last week; the new Imperial Supercommandos are just the same ones from 'Rebels' with an updated design. The Darktrooper Phase 4 was going to be force sensitive clones of Gideon in that new Beskar armour.
For a moment there I thought Grogu was just going to up and force choke those Pretorians. Glad to see he didn't give into anger and remembered his Jedi training. Also, he held back a reactor explosion with the force and survived! Take that Kanan Jarrus!
Glad that Axe Wolves did the smart thing and bailed out once it was clear gravity and inertia would do the rest of the work. I've seen far too many pointless "going down with the ship" scenes over the years. It was nice to get the sane version of it.
Also glad to see the Darksaber destroyed (and I kinda figured it was going to be sooner or later) though can't help but wonder if they'll just end up repairing it. At the very least I can see Din Grogu inheriting the kyber crystal within.
Who want's to bet one clone somehow survived? Giancarlo Esposito is far too much fun for them not to bring him back at some point.
So is Din is his family name and Djarin his given name? Was that always the case, or did they just make that up because "Grogu Djarin" sounds weird, even for Star Wars?
Wait, so does this now mean that Clan Din are now both . . . Rangers of the New Republic? *plays theme tune*
That was fucking awesome
In the early draft (the one that was WAY too long and complicated) the finale would have involved a tribe of wookiees being recruited by the heroes and trained to fly starfighters against the imperial battlestation.
When Lucas cut that part out, he'd become so enamoured with the idea of Wookiees that he decided to make one the first mate of the pirate ship.
By the time he got to RotJ he'd already got an idea of Wookiee culture in his head that just wasn't compatible with that intended allegory, so he (in his words) "cut them in half and called them Ewoks."
As for how they were able to do all of that; look no further than the Gorax. They share that moon with a race of hundred foot tall ape-monsters. Hence the abundance of large scale log-traps, catapults, gliders, and co-ordination formations of trained bowmen (bowwoks?) Add to that their natural camouflage, deep familiarity with the terrain, and total lack of energy sources or even metal for sensors to lock onto, and the Imperials massively underestimated their threat level.
Well, mostly he was riffing on the vietnam war, and basically any time a supposedly unstoppable advanced military force gets their arse kicked by a bunch of technologically inferior, but very determined locals.
That too, of course. The Ewoks do tie our heroes to sticks and carry them to a large cooking pot like the cannibal tribes of yore though..,
Let us not forget, before C3-P0 intervened, those cute Ewoks were gonna eat people.
That's how you tie up a 3 season long story arc. Very cool.
Yeah I really enjoyed the finale. I'd agree that it was a lot more straightforward than I was expecting but that wasn't a bad thing.
Way, way better than most of the rest of this season. A step down from Seasons 1 and 2 as a finale but at least it ended on a (mostly) satisfying note.
Terrific finale that neatly tied everything together (maybe too neatly but I don't care) with Din Djarin and Gorgu settling down in the countryside. If needed, this could've easily served as the series finale but fortunately we know we have another season coming!
The Darksaber may have been destroyed but if anyone can fix it, the Armorer can, especially now that the Great Forge has been relit.
So I was wrong about Sabine showing up as a preview to Ahsoka, but I'm not disappointed since we instead got Zeb, who will undoubtedly return in said show.
Yeah, I was bummed out we never got back to Pershing after the heavy focus on him. I hope we'll see him again, especially since Elia Kane is still on the loose but without a master.
...although we didn't see a body so there's still "hope" that Gideon survived.
That's better than him magically surviving and that plays against the "we didn't see a body" trope that I just referred to.
Yeah, that threw me off, too. Not I don't have a problem with that (see: Bajorians), just that it wasn't clear to me before.
At least now we know that Gideon wanted Grogu for his own cloning program to make Gideon foot soldiers with beskar Dark Trooper armor. Makes a lot of sense now. The Client and Pershing now seem to have been tied in with the program that will eventually lead to Palpatine and Snoke and Gideon needed to take Grogu from them for his own experiments.
I'm still not 100% on what was going on with The Client. He seemed a little too willing to have Grogu killed rather than captured. Was he deliberately trying to undermine Gideon's ambitions without directly disobeying a command? Is that why Gideon had him killed?
Also at some point it'd be nice to actually know who The Client even was. Another Moff? A Governor? An exiled Sienar or Tagge? He didn't strike me as military.
Pretty sure he's either dead, or a vegetable.
As for Kane . . . well it's not the first time she's been left in the wind after a finale takes her boss off the board. Though this time it seems more permanent, so perhaps she'll go looking fore a new (blue) boss? Or they never bother coming back to her and she winds up just staying embedded for decades until the First Order show up.
Was Gideon wearing an exoskeleton? Every movement had a sort of mechanic sound to it. His armour looked a bit to Darth Vaderish...
That was the implication, plus he crushed the Darksaber hilt with mechanical assistance, I believe.
Entertaining but a bit too straight forward and anti climatic. It felt a bit rushed in some ways. The whole cloning mystery was just brushed away with "oh, it was Gideon cloning himself with force powers". Gideon gets wiped out, as does the plot and mystery. I wonder if they are dumping this stuff because they want to build up Thrawn instead.
The repeated complaints that the ending seemed too straight-forward are very strange considering this is exactly where the show said it was headed.
You guys do realise that you all just spent the last few weeks talking yourself into this idea of a grand conspiracy, right? The actual show did absolutely nothing to imply that an elaborate twist or betrayal was in the making. The only mystery presented was "what happened to Gideon", and we got that answer. Plus the lingering threads from last season with the creepy clone experiments, and his interest in Grogu's m-count.
And rushed? Literally the whole season was building to this, and they spent two whole episodes paying it off.
It's phase 4 Dark Trooper armor, as he said in the previous episode. That means it's essentially power armour.
Wow that was an incredible finale. It's really cool see Din be the badass that Boba Fett never was.
The aerial jetpack battle looked insane.
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