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Spoilers The Mandalorian Season 3

  • Not that it matters in the slightest, or that I care at all; but it's funny how a few episodes back those jetpacks ran out of juice chasing an animal to it's nest, but here they can make low orbit.

Make low orbit and still have enough juice to get you away from the crashing ship! But yeah I had the exact same thought!

Terrific finale that neatly tied everything together (maybe too neatly but I don't care) with Din Djarin and Gorgu settling down in the countryside. If needed, this could've easily served as the series finale but fortunately we know we have another season coming!

I thought that. I don't want the show to end but if it had ended with that shot I'd have been happy.

Was Gideon wearing an exoskeleton? Every movement had a sort of mechanic sound to it. His armour looked a bit to Darth Vaderish...

Oh they were definitely trying to evoke a Vaderness to Gideon, what with his "I'll deal with him myself" moment as well!

Anyway, hugely enjoyable, would have been nice to see Pedro Pascal but beyond that I think they definitely stuck the landing. Was genuinely worried for both Dinn and Grogu at points though!

Interesting to see where they go with season 4, will it be a split season? Half the episodes focusing on Bo-Katan restoring Mandalore intermixed with Dinn and Grogu hunt bad guys of the week?
 
I loved this. It was very straightforward, but it hit all the right notes.

The thematic perfection of the final battle against Gideon was *chef's kiss*. The Moff is all ego and believes he can only rely on his superior mind/skills to the point that his entire army is meant to be clones of him. Meanwhile the Mandos, well Bo said it herself, "Mandalorians are stronger together." They work as a team and are more than the sum of their parts.

Also, the irony of the man who is trying to steal every other faction's powers/weapons/gadgets first declaring that Mandos are weak without their toys and then being undone by a ship they stole from him. Turnabout being fair play, and all.

Maybe you hardcore Wars fan know, But it this the first time a Jedi type has created a "Force field"? (Yeah, I went there)

No. Jedi Knighy Kanaan Jarrus did the exact same thing in the final season of Rebels, though somewhat less successfully. Though, to be fair he also had to throw an entire ship full of his friends to safety at the same time.
 
For me this finale just highlighted how misdirected most of the rest of the season was. The reason it felt 'rushed' is because so much time was wasted on inconsequential stuff in the past seven episodes. This was an okay season, not up to the quality of the first two, but it would have been better if Gideon had returned early and they had focused more on their core plot.

I will say though, that there were things I genuinely loved in almost every episode this season.
 
The thematic perfection of the final battle against Gideon was *chef's kiss*. The Moff is all ego and believes he can only rely on his superior mind/skills to the point that his entire army is meant to be clones of him. Meanwhile the Mandos, well Bo said it herself, "Mandalorians are stronger together." They work as a team and are more than the sum of their parts.
Exactly so. It all came together perfectly well thematically. Din felt like a solid character, his skills consistent, and his relationships make sense. The Mandalorians take on a new dimension as a culture, and Moff Gideon was a suitable antagonist this season, vs. last season.

Excellent work!

My compliments to the chef, as well as Hasbro needs to get on a Season 3 Gideon, and Praetorians and Supercommandos.
 
For me this finale just highlighted how misdirected most of the rest of the season was. The reason it felt 'rushed' is because so much time was wasted on inconsequential stuff in the past seven episodes. This was an okay season, not up to the quality of the first two, but it would have been better if Gideon had returned early and they had focused more on their core plot.

I will say though, that there were things I genuinely loved in almost every episode this season.

I can't agree with this. Mostly because you and I fundamentally disagree on what the "core plot" of the season was. You think it was Gideon. It wasn't. The core plot, which is the focus of EVERY SINGLE EPISODE of the season is "Mandalorians are stronger together." Or at least on the benefits of friendship and teamwork.

Even the Dr. Pershing episode fits in this context. Pershing is undone because he DOESN'T put his trust in the Republic and the Amnesty program, or even the other former Imperials, but instead runs around behind everyone's back and tries to do his own thing. And Kane proves to be a false ally, not a comrade but a manipulator. She doesn't actually have Pershings back and is only using him in bad faith. They aren't a team, they are a fracture.
 
Overall, Season 3 was very mediocre to me and it spent too much time on Bo-Katan, to the point that found Din Djarin and Grogu nearly sidetracked by their own series . . . until the last two episodes. Although the two main characters had not been sidetracked during Season 1, I do remember being irritated that the narrative for that particular season was almost paused by three stand-alone episodes that were basically used to introduce new supporting characters - one for Season 1 and two for Season 3 - before the season's narrative resumed for its last two episodes. That was irritating. Not as irritating as Season 3, but yeah . . . a bit irritating. I would say Season 2 was the best of the bunch. But unlike many, I was not thrilled by Luke Skywalker's appearance in that season's finale. I thought Favreau could have saved Grogu's Force training for the series finale. And look what happened. Lucasfilm, Favreau and Robert Rodriguez had reunited the two at the end of "Boba Fett". It made their Season 2 separation unnecessary. But . . . no series is perfect.

Even the Dr. Pershing episode fits in this context. Pershing is undone because he DOESN'T put his trust in the Republic and the Amnesty program, or even the other former Imperials, but instead runs around behind everyone's back and tries to do his own thing. And Kane proves to be a false ally, not a comrade but a manipulator. She doesn't actually have Pershings back and is only using him in bad faith. They aren't a team, they are a fracture.

Yes, but will this story arc be followed up in the future?
 
Yes, but will this story arc be followed up in the future?

It already was. We now know why Gideon sent Kane to take Pershing off the table. He needed to ensure that his off-book cloning experiments weren't revealed to anybody, including the other Imperial leaders.

Gideon was basically attempting to create a superhuman army, made up entirely of himself, so that he could crown himself the new Emperor. This is why he needed Pershing, and why he needed Grogu. We've effectively tied off the entire thread with this episode, but we were given all the answers we haven't had since the very beginning of this series (well, except for exactly who The Client was, but that seems like the kind of thing we're just going to have to roll with at this point).
 
So, is Gideon’s cloning technique better than the Kaminoans?
His clones seemed to be the same age as the original and didn’t need to mature over a full decade.
You're assuming they wouldn't all die of old age within a year from decanting due to unsafe hyper accelerated aging. Also the Jango clones weren't just sitting around doing nothing for a decade, they were being trained as soldiers. Gideons clones probably just got a flash memory implant from Gideon himself (like Palpatine's clone.)

Honestly Din did him a favour. If all those things were force sensitive AND had his memories, they'd instantly murder him, start slaughtering each and then die of old age.
Maybe you hardcore Wars fan know, But it this the first time a Jedi type has created a "Force field"? (Yeah, I went there)
Nope. Not even the second time either. Hell, Grogu already did it before, just on a smaller scale.
 
I think Palpy's clones are empty vessels into which he can move his own soul essence, in effect occupying them when his current body is destroyed or gives out.
 
I think Palpy's clones are empty vessels into which he can move his own soul essence, in effect occupying them when his current body is destroyed or gives out.
I disagree. Partly because it doesn't jive with how Lucas thought of how the force worked, or how the Sith thought about what lies beyond death, but mostly because tRoS was so poorly thought out that I have no qualms about ignoring it's BS explanations, and just head-canoning what happened in order for it to actually make some sense.

My contention is that Palpatine actually died. His energy became one with the cosmic force, just like it does with everything else. Being immersed in the dark side, he was unable to retain his individuality, let alone return from the netherworld. So he's gone.
That thing on Exogol was a janky m-count enhanced strandcast clone possessed by the Sith Throne, which is in fact an artefact that acts much like the Nightsisters' altar or the Rur crystal (both of which are essentially really esoteric pieces of technology.) It captures and contains the memories and knowledge of every Sith Lord that has claimed it (basically a super-holocron), with the imprint of Sidious being the most recent. That's why he's bound to that place unable to leave, and why his bodies keep rapidly decaying; he can't exist apart from it. He's not Palpatine, he's just an echo. A crazed shadow of a shadow, surrounded by deluded cultists on a dead world. Even his plan was futile; possessing Rey's body wouldn't have allowed him to leave either, just given him a more viable host . . . for a time.

Feel free to disagree of course. But I think this makes way more sense, does less damage to established lore, and still fits in with what's said in the movie . . . bearing in mind that Palps was as mad as a sack full of kowakian monkey-lizards, and thus not a reliable source of information. Hell, he wasn't even consistent about what he wanted from one scene to the next!
 
But I think this makes way more sense, does less damage to established lore, and still fits in with what's said in the movie
No, it really doesn't.
Essence transfer isn't Force ghosting. He didn't have to return from the netherworld as he didn't end up there.
Indeed. And given the Sith obsession with eternal life I would imagine Palpatine was trying everything to avoid going to the netherworld, including moving his essence to whatever vessel he could.
 
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