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Spoilers The Mandalorian | Disney+ | Streaming Nov. 12

Well, with the first episode I thought it was more a Western; but as I was watching Episode 2; a good portion of it reminded me of this:
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- They spend A LOT of time this episode just showing the guy walking.
The baby carrier put me in mind of Lone Wolf and Cub as well and well. I can't remember if I actually watched those or not, I used to have a channel that showed samurai movies on the weekends but it was more Zatoichi and Toshiro Mifune movies but if it's like those a lot of walking comes with the territory.
 
Alternatively, by the time we meet Yoda he may be the equivalent of an octogenarian. Maybe what we saw was Yoda when he was frail. Isn't that a terrifying thought? If his race is that powerful when they're young, and Yoda was that powerful when he was positively ancient, what do they look like in their prime?
That was always the impression that I got of Yoda, that he was really really old, even for his race. The dude can barely even walk by the time we get to Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi.
 
Random thought: Yoda had been training Jedi for 800 years by the time he was 900. So that means that his species take 50 years to get from newborn (or hatchling?) to basically a toddler, then in the same amount of time go from said toddler to (presumably) fully mature. Or at least enough that they're able to complete their trials, take and fully train their own padawan (which typically seems to take about a decade all by itself.)

I mean let's be generous and say little Frogwai is roughly equivalent to a 5 year old human, that still means they're fully mature around the equivalent to a human aged 10. Not that one should expect another species to have an equivalent maturation to age ratio as humans, but for a species that spends so long seemingly helpless, when they do grow up it seems to happen relatively fast.

Alternatively, by the time we meet Yoda he may be the equivalent of an octogenarian. Maybe what we saw was Yoda when he was frail. Isn't that a terrifying thought? If his race is that powerful when they're young, and Yoda was that powerful when he was positively ancient, what do they look like in their prime?
Like this? ;)
 
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Got to watch the first two episodes last night, enjoyable, but boy were they short.

I like how it is clearly, identifiably "Star Wars", but the dialogue doesn't shove it in your face. They wrote a story that fit the universe, not one driven completely by it.
 
Got to watch the first two episodes last night, enjoyable, but boy were they short.

I like how it is clearly, identifiably "Star Wars", but the dialogue doesn't shove it in your face. They wrote a story that fit the universe, not one driven completely by it.
Agreed. I'll take quality over quantity. It's a spare and very visual story-telling, unlike much of the franchise's other offerings. I appreciate not having to be spoon-fed every little detail, as well as having to mull over the implications of what we're being presented.
 
I've always been a bit surprised how little we've seen of Yaddle. You'd think there'd be more interest in having another member of Yoda's species around.

Yaddle got some love in the EU, which is of course no longer canon.

https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Yaddle/Legends

I get the impression that perhaps George wasn't too fond of Yaddle, at least on reflection. Which would explain why she more or less just quietly disappears from the canon continuity after TPM.

Interestingly, while reading Rinzler's 'Making of Return of the Jedi' I came across some of Lucas's thoughts on what Yoda was at the time that I hadn't heard before. Basically, he wasn't supposed to be a Jedi at all, not was Palpatine supposed to be a Sith. The idea then was that Jedi and Sith were all warriors types and the general notion is that Yoda was a kind of force guru that Jedi would go to for training, with the Emperor being his opposite number. He even specifically says that neither of them would be any good in a lightsaber fight, because that wasn't their way. They were more like wizards than knights.

This kind of plays into the notion of Yoda being a semi-mystical character. Making him an actual Jedi (and inventing the "Darth Sidious" persona) in TPM indicates that he somewhat reconsidered this. Perhaps Yaddle was intended as an indication that Yoda wasn't so special as one might think, though as Lucas is know to do he later changed his mind and prefered that Yoda retain some mystique.

Still, until the LFSG comes out with anything concrete, I'm still calling them all Frogwais. ;)
 
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After seeing how mobile the child was in the second episode, I started to wonder if maybe he isn't more mature than he appears. I mean, he's, like, half the size of a full-grown Yoda, even if he's the size of a human baby and being carried around in a space-bassinet. An actual "baby" Yoda would probably be, like, the size of a kitten. We don't know where he came from, or who's been taking care of him. Fifty years old means he was born before Palpatine became Chancellor (in fact, he was born the same year as Anakin, which could be important), so he probably wouldn't have been on the run or kept hidden immediately, but we don't know. He could've been abducted as soon as he was born (or as an egg, if they have eggs). It could be he's not verbal because he doesn't know English, or wasn't educated by whoever had him, and a child of his age would normally be speaking.

As for Yoda, he says he began training Jedi at more-or-less a hundred years old. That's probably just when he took his first Padawan, assuming he wasn't exaggerating the way Obi-Wan was about being trained by him, and he was talking about, I don't know, giving math tutoring to younglings while he was still an apprentice. Anyway, Obi-Wan took his first apprentice when he was 25, immediately after he graduated from Padawan. IIRC, it was unusual, but not unheard of.
 
After seeing how mobile the child was in the second episode, I started to wonder if maybe he isn't more mature than he appears. I mean, he's, like, half the size of a full-grown Yoda, even if he's the size of a human baby and being carried around in a space-bassinet. An actual "baby" Yoda would probably be, like, the size of a kitten. We don't know where he came from, or who's been taking care of him. Fifty years old means he was born before Palpatine became Chancellor (in fact, he was born the same year as Anakin, which could be important), so he probably wouldn't have been on the run or kept hidden immediately, but we don't know. He could've been abducted as soon as he was born (or as an egg, if they have eggs). It could be he's not verbal because he doesn't know English, or wasn't educated by whoever had him, and a child of his age would normally be speaking.

As for Yoda, he says he began training Jedi at more-or-less a hundred years old. That's probably just when he took his first Padawan, assuming he wasn't exaggerating the way Obi-Wan was about being trained by him, and he was talking about, I don't know, giving math tutoring to younglings while he was still an apprentice. Anyway, Obi-Wan took his first apprentice when he was 25, immediately after he graduated from Padawan. IIRC, it was unusual, but not unheard of.

The only real wrinkle in this idea is that they seem to be using recordings of actual human baby noises for little Frogwai, so unless he or she is pulling a con job, the intent seems to be that they are indeed an infant.

As for where Frogwai came from: my personal theory for now is that they was abducted by Palpatine or his inquisitors at some point as part of Project Harvester (which we saw as early as TCW, but might also include how Maul was "acquired", depending on how one interprets events), but was either lost or taken from the Inquisitorius amidst the chaos of the Empire falling apart, and now this one faction is trying to get their "asset" back for whatever purposes they have in mind.

RE: mobility. It really doesn't take babies all that long to start to be able to get around. Just this week I had to cope with my 3 month old nephew who's flat out determined to fling himself out of one's arms at a moments notice. In my experience they're usually crawling by 8 months, walking by 12-18 months and plotting escape from any form of confinement the moment you take your eyes off them!
 
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Never been a big SW guy, but I've seen the OT and some of the new stuff.

When I hear "The Mandalorian" I think "The man, DeLorean." Like it's a documentary about the guy who designed the base for the time machine. :techman:

I watched the two episodes. It was ok. I'll watch the rest when they come out.
 
I think the threads you are looking for are here and here.
Those aren't the threads you are looking for. You can go about your business. Move along...

Well, with the first episode I thought it was more a Western
It was, down to the Gatling gun. We had a train chase in Ep. 2 (with an Indy 'tank' scrape along the canyon wall).

Classic stuff, nicely referenced
 
I am sure enjoying this show. I like the long stretches of non dialog and big vistas. It seems more realistic than the deliberately stilted dialog of the movies. I have been surprised by my liking of it whereas the JJ Trek flicks and DSC dissapointed.
 
Was glad to see the second episode continued the tone I was loving from ep 1. Serious enough, but totally unafraid to go just the right amount of goofy.

My fave thing about the show so far is that they aren't trying to make the Mando someone who is so effortlessly cool that he can do anything. I mean, he is good at a lot of things. And he is a bad-ass. But he also falls down a lot. Or gets bested by Jawas. Or stepped on by big animals and spends time muddy.

I like it. :)

Also, loving the way they recap the story you just watched with art during the credits. Noice.
 
I just finished the first two episodes. I love the minimalistic dialog. It takes me back to the good old days of classic westerns and Jidai-Geki. And a little more recently in media history, to "Samurai Jack."

I hope they release new episodes soon.

And Yoda Jr.'s midi-chlorian levels must be through the roof! :eek:

Kor
 
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