The Killing (AMC) Discussion
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That's my biggest problem right now. The show's meandering all over the place, and has lost the focus on Rosie's murder. It's gone too broad, trying to incorporate political/social/religious commentary into everything, leaving me feeling absolutely no personal connection to the mystery or any of the characters.
My second biggest problem, I hate to say, is Michelle Forbes. I loved her in TNG, 24, True Blood, and the first 4-5 episodes of this show, but now I grimace whenever I see her, because it means we're in for a few minutes of slow-talking moping and staring off into the distance. I don't know if it's the writers not giving her much interesting to do, or her just not injecting the slightest bit of energy into her performance, but it's really dragging things down.
I watched last night's episode and I'm just not feeling the show. It just seems aimless and sluggish. Lot of predictable stuff--no sense of narrative urgency or intrigue which is a crime for a mystery drama. And none of the characters except Mitch interest me.
Meh. This show just isn't very good.
Meh. This show just isn't very good.
I think she's the best thing about the show and the one thing the writers have gotten right is the reactions of a parent who has lost a child. Everything rings true and her performance has captured the anger, grief, the self blame, the ache of loss, the obsession over leaving everything in place and focusing on the lost child while ignoring those who are still alive, the emotional drain, the feeling of being adrift and having to start anew and not knowing quite where to begin.
Yeah. The review has a few good points. However, it's important to remember that, what seems like weeks or months to us, is only a few days into the storyline. With that in mind, some of the things that the reviewer thinks should have happened by now aren't really as late into the investigation as one might think.
Last night's ep was much better and finally seemed to be picking up some steam. I could have done without the cliched awkward overgrown manchild living with his abusive horny slutty old lady mother.
The show is still too slow and unfocused but at least the murder mystery has come back into focus in an interesting way.
Edit: I read the review linked and I have to say the critic is being far too harsh and nitpicky but that usually happens when someone watches something they really aren't interested in.
The show is still too slow and unfocused but at least the murder mystery has come back into focus in an interesting way.
Edit: I read the review linked and I have to say the critic is being far too harsh and nitpicky but that usually happens when someone watches something they really aren't interested in.
I'm almost wondering what this show would have been like if they had aired it every night for 12 nights. I think my response to it would be very different and it would be really appointment television. I think about Torchwood: Children of Earth... a show taking place over five days airing in five days.
Though, the business model wouldn't work for The Killing as much, but... man, I think that would've helped. Because you're right, it's only been ten days for them, but, ten weeks for us...
I can fathom someone not connecting a key chain logo with a casino. Linden doesn't gamble or ride that ferry to work. How many details do we miss everyday when we drive to work? Can we remember every billboard? That she didn't connect a key chain to a casino until she was looking right at the casino itself isn't so unbelievable. And assuming Adela is a person isn't so farfetched either. The first assumption would be that Adela is a person. I would assume it was a person. I'd say "catch the ferry" if I were writing a note. Maybe Sarah doesn't notice the ferry names in her day to day work. I wouldn't.
Another weakness of the show is how they introduce all these individual storylines that introduce potential suspects and end up being dead-ends and play no further rle in the Big Picture. So in hindsight they seem like pointless filler unlike say the way individual threads worthy in their own right feed into the larger ongoing narrative i.e. S1 of Heroes that did trilogies of independent storylines that threaded over time.
Also, many people have key chains that have nothing to do with anything but it was free and they found it convenient to use it.
This.
In addition, unlike some TV crime series (Law and Order, I'm looking at you), the dead ends are early in the case, not halfway through the trial.
Deadends on a tv show isn't interesting it is dull. For entertainment you know to be entertaining they need to have a little poetic licensing in what they do.
Maybe you found Ahmet and the Muslim subplot interesting I didn't or the spoiled druged up kids early on etc etc but they are red herrings that just kill time and aren't interesting in and of themselves. That's part of why this show is such a chore to chug through
Maybe you found Ahmet and the Muslim subplot interesting I didn't or the spoiled druged up kids early on etc etc but they are red herrings that just kill time and aren't interesting in and of themselves. That's part of why this show is such a chore to chug through
I enjoyed this week's episode a lot and I do think this show (assuming it ends well) will come across a lot better on a DVD set than with 7 days in between each episode for the viewer. I also don't see what's so silly about them just checking the cabs now, since early on they were focused on her friends, got the tip about the bus, followed the bus and found the place Ahmed volunteers and someone recognized Rosie, which put them onto Rosie. It was only after they ruled out Rosie that they realized there was a new gap in the timeline and that she had to have traveled somewhere at some point. It was nice to see the detectives finally starting to work well together as a team, too.
My experiences with your posts I'm pretty sure you haven't found anything interesting in your life.
Ha! You bitch and complain as much as I do about stuff--I guess it is okay as long as I'm not criticizing something you think is good like Fringe and The Killing.
But if it is the last few seasons of nBSG, SGU, The Event etc it's cool to criticize.
Mireille Enos and Michelle Forbes? I need to catch up with this series proto...
Ha! You bitch and complain as much as I do about stuff--I guess it is okay as long as I'm not criticizing something you think is good like Fringe and The Killing.
I actually like TV shows, I haven't seen one you like. You make me look like I love all TV.
Also The Event... really? No one actually thinks that's a good show, just stupid fun. That's a show without any fans.
I like a lot of tv shows-TOS, TNG, B5, DS9, ENT S3/4, LOST S1/3/4/5, S1 Heroes, Veronica Mars, Prison Break S1/4, Supernatural S1/2/4, Boston Legal, nBSG S1/2, Tru Calling, The Practice, Judging Amy, The Golden Girls, Roseanne, The Vampire Diaries, the original Melrose Place, Frasier, Dallas, Hill Street Blues to name a few. I can't help it that I think tv just isn't good as it used to be--the writing is worse, the stories are too convoluted, the characters too bland, the the quality is too inconsistent, the pacing is too fast or too slow etc.
This week's episode was a pretty interesting departure. I'm a little mixed on it but overall I appreciated the time away from all the other plots and the focus on the detectives.