The "I told you so" thread...

[scotthm]

And? So that one aspect means windows are useless?

Virtually, at least when one has advanced viewscreen technology. Most of what a starship would see through a window would be small points of light.

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[Brent]

And? So that one aspect means windows are useless?

Virtually, at least when one has advanced viewscreen technology. Most of what a starship would see through a window would be small points of light.

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But this window IS ALSO A viewscreen, it does double duty.

 

[USS KG5]

The point is, that same material would protect them against the cosmic radiation you were talking about. This isn't glass we are dealing with.

Well on top of that - it presumably offers perfectly sufficent protection to the crew as otherwise they would not have put it there!

Plus it cracked after the ceiling!

 

[urbandk]

Have you guys seen those windows in fancy corporate boardrooms that can literally become totally opaque with the push of a button?

I'm thinking they might use something like that here too.

 

[scotthm]

The point is, that same material would protect them against the cosmic radiation you were talking about.

How? Isn't it transparent? If it's transparent to visible light then enemy ships could shine bright laser beams through the window to endanger the bridge crew.

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[Brent]

The point is, that same material would protect them against the cosmic radiation you were talking about.

How? Isn't it transparent? If it's transparent to visible light then enemy ships could shine bright laser beams through the window to endanger the bridge crew.

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i'm just gonna laugh lol

if they can survive the lens flares of the 23rd century they can survive any kind of bright lights lol

 

[scotthm]

But this window IS ALSO A viewscreen, it does double duty.

My point is that you don't need something that does double duty because the viewscreen is already a better 'window' than a real window.

Have you guys seen those windows in fancy corporate boardrooms that can literally become totally opaque with the push of a button?

I'm thinking they might use something like that here too.

Reaction time would be too slow.

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[Brent]

But this window IS ALSO A viewscreen, it does double duty.

My point is that you don't need something that does double duty because the viewscreen is already a better 'window' than a real window.
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Until power goes out and you have no idea what is right in front of your ship.

 

[scotthm]

If it's transparent to visible light then enemy ships could shine bright laser beams through the window to endanger the bridge crew.

i'm just gonna laugh lol

if they can survive the lens flares of the 23rd century they can survive any kind of bright lights lol

Perhaps it should just be laughed at and not taken seriously at all.

But I've already seen Galaxy Quest.

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[Brent]

If it's transparent to visible light then enemy ships could shine bright laser beams through the window to endanger the bridge crew.

i'm just gonna laugh lol

if they can survive the lens flares of the 23rd century they can survive any kind of bright lights lol

Perhaps it should just be laughed at and not taken seriously at all.

But I've already seen Galaxy Quest.

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I don't let it detract my enjoyment of the movie.

But, I also see no problem with having a window on the bridge.

 

[DeafPoet]

If it's transparent to visible light then enemy ships could shine bright laser beams through the window to endanger the bridge crew.

i'm just gonna laugh lol

if they can survive the lens flares of the 23rd century they can survive any kind of bright lights lol

Perhaps it should just be laughed at and not taken seriously at all.

But I've already seen Galaxy Quest.

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Watch it again. I don't think you got the joke. Pay special attention to the nitpicky fans at the convention.

 

[scotthm]

you don't need something that does double duty because the viewscreen is already a better 'window' than a real window.

Until power goes out and you have no idea what is right in front of your ship.

If your power is gone does it really matter?

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[The Mirrorball Man]

A window in place of a viewscreen on the bridge makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.

If I were exploring strange new worlds, I'd love to be able to see them with my own eyes. In fact, I'd insist on it.

 

[Brent]

you don't need something that does double duty because the viewscreen is already a better 'window' than a real window.

Until power goes out and you have no idea what is right in front of your ship.

If your power is gone does it really matter?

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Sure, to know where the heck you are in space and if you are fixing to be pulled into a planet or something, heh.

 

[Lt. Trull]

A window in place of a viewscreen on the bridge makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.

If I were exploring strange new worlds, I'd love to be able to see them with my own eyes. In fact, I'd insist on it.

which is exactly why ten-forward was so popular....
i mean besides the alcohol....

 

[scotthm]

If I were exploring strange new worlds, I'd love to be able to see them with my own eyes. In fact, I'd insist on it.

That's just because you've never used the fancy viewscreens they have in the 23rd century.

Until power goes out and you have no idea what is right in front of your ship.

If your power is gone does it really matter?

Sure, to know where the heck you are in space and if you are fixing to be pulled into a planet or something, heh.

OK. Your ship is without power and you're being pulled into a planet. Enjoy watching your window melting on your way down.

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[Brent]

lol, yes, still, i see no problem with having a window, none at all, useless or not, i don't see why they can't have one

being useless isn't a reason not to have one, lots of things are useless, chairs are useless, i think everyone should stand at all times while on duty, especially the captain, he should be alert

 

[MisterPL]

If I were exploring strange new worlds, I'd love to be able to see them with my own eyes. In fact, I'd insist on it.

We have a winner.

Like I've said before, the window adds a human element. Seeing an image on a viewscreen is very different than seeing something with your own eyes.

 

[scotthm]

Seeing an image on a viewscreen is very different than seeing something with your own eyes.

Exactly. Try staring at the sun for a few minutes through a pane of clear glass.

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[Brent]

Seeing an image on a viewscreen is very different than seeing something with your own eyes.

Exactly. Try staring at the sun for a few minutes through a pane of clear glass.

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It isn't glass, sigh

I'm sure by the 23rd century they have the technology that we have here in the 21st century to make a transparent screen or window opaque, i believe we use liquid crystals to do it, they probably have technology way more advanced that can change the amount of light that gets through the window