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The Flash - Season 1

Wasn't there a map showing up on Arrow?

*checks screencapped.net*

Well, it put Starling near the Great Lakes.
 
Central City has always moved around in the comics (originally it was in Ohio, but has also been in Florida, Missouri, Kansas, and a couple of other places.)

That said, episode 9 explicitly stated that the show's Central City is in Missouri. Which doesn't have a coastline.
Florida? Must have missed that one!
 
Missouri, huh?

Well this is still interesting.

The city was incorporated in 1852, the same year a devastating flood hit the city.

Is it possible that Barry accidentally flung the Tsunami back in time 160 years when he time travelled back two days?
 
Couple still means 2 doesn't it?
Reference to a math problem that usually goes something like this

At the same moment, two trains leave Chicago and New York. They move towards each other with costant speeds. The train from Chicago is moving at speed of 40 miles per hour, and the train from New York is moving at speed of 60 miles per hour. The distance between Chicago and New York is 1000 miles. How long after their departure will they meet?
 
Mark Hamil is currently talking about his time on the show in his panel at Star Wars Celebration. Nothing crazy revealing, but some nice BTS talk. They are playing the clip where he tells the kid "I am your father". (I loved that part)

He just revealed that he completely ad-libbed "so you can cut off his head and throw it right in his face" at the end of the scripted line "If I knew where he was I'd tell you so you can find him."
 
Couple still means 2 doesn't it?
Reference to a math problem that usually goes something like this

At the same moment, two trains leave Chicago and New York. They move towards each other with costant speeds. The train from Chicago is moving at speed of 40 miles per hour, and the train from New York is moving at speed of 60 miles per hour. The distance between Chicago and New York is 1000 miles. How long after their departure will they meet?

Yes, that makes perfect sense in your first draft and I should have got that by myself. Sorry.
 
Mark Hamil is currently talking about his time on the show in his panel at Star Wars Celebration. Nothing crazy revealing, but some nice BTS talk. They are playing the clip where he tells the kid "I am your father". (I loved that part)

He just revealed that he completely ad-libbed "so you can cut off his head and throw it right in his face" at the end of the scripted line "If I knew where he was I'd tell you so you can find him."

I was pleasantly surprised by how good Hamil was in that episode, as I haven't seen him in much besides a SW and a few sitcom appearances.

Is it too much to hope for that his character will return?
 
You should certainly watch his two episodes as the Trickster in the original 1990 The Flash series.

The producers want to have him back again on this new show. In a team up with the rest of the Rogues Gallery.
 
Mark Hamil is currently talking about his time on the show in his panel at Star Wars Celebration. Nothing crazy revealing, but some nice BTS talk. They are playing the clip where he tells the kid "I am your father". (I loved that part)

He just revealed that he completely ad-libbed "so you can cut off his head and throw it right in his face" at the end of the scripted line "If I knew where he was I'd tell you so you can find him."

I was pleasantly surprised by how good Hamil was in that episode, as I haven't seen him in much besides a SW and a few sitcom appearances.

Is it too much to hope for that his character will return?

Well, he was basically channelling a variation on his Joker performance and that's a part he's been doing on and off for 25 years, so I should hope he's pretty good at it by now. ;)

Not that he can't do a lighter version of the Trickster of course.
 
Mark Hamil is currently talking about his time on the show in his panel at Star Wars Celebration. Nothing crazy revealing, but some nice BTS talk. They are playing the clip where he tells the kid "I am your father". (I loved that part)

He just revealed that he completely ad-libbed "so you can cut off his head and throw it right in his face" at the end of the scripted line "If I knew where he was I'd tell you so you can find him."

I was pleasantly surprised by how good Hamil was in that episode, as I haven't seen him in much besides a SW and a few sitcom appearances.

Is it too much to hope for that his character will return?
Have you seen any animated Batman material with Joker from within the past 25 years? If so, there's a pretty good chance you've seen another Mark Hamill performance.
The only animated material and video games from that era that didn't feature Hamil as the Joker are:
Movies/TV shows:
The Batman with Kevin Michael Richardson
The Brave and the Bold with Jeff Bennett
Justice League: Crisis on Two Earths with James Patrick Stewart
DC Super Friends with John Kassir
Under the Red Hood with John Dimaggio
Young Justice with Brent Spiner
The Dark Knight Returns with Michael Emerson
LEGO Batman: The Movie DC Superheroes Unite with Corey Michael Smith
Son of Batman with Dee Bradley Baker
Assault on Arkham with Troy Baker
LEGO Batman Be-Leagured with John Dimaggio
Video Games:
Batman: Dark Tomorrow with Allen Enlow
Mortal Kombat vs DC Universe with Richard Epcar
LEGO Batman 2 featured the same Corey Michael Smtih performance that was in the LEGO Batman: The Movie...
Injustice: Gods Among Us with Richard Epcar
LEGO Batman 3: Beyond Gotham with Corey Michael Smith
Infinite Crisis with Richard Epcar
Every other Joker video game and animated appearance since the early 1990s was Mark Hamil. I believe he also provided some Joker VO for Birds of Prey.
 
^Also, Troy Baker's version of the Joker in the Arkham game is a pretty dead-on impression of Mark Hamill's Joker.

And the LEGO Batman Joker voice is by Christopher Corey Smith. You're confusing him with Cory Michael Smith, who plays Edward Nygma on Gotham.
 
Oops, thank you. I must have just seen Corey and Smith and gone right to Gotham's Riddler.
 
That said, episode 9 explicitly stated that the show's Central City is in Missouri. Which doesn't have a coastline.

That would track with what the animated Young Justice did; they seemed to have Central City as a stand in for St. Louis.

http://youngjustice.wikia.com/wiki/Central_City

The idea works well because St. Louis is split in two by the Mississippi River (one part of the city in Missouri and one part in Illinois). This fits with the comics idea that Central City and Keystone City are separated by a river and joined by a bridge. The map at the link above suggests the Missouri/Kansas border, but that would merely change the river to the Missouri River.

Come to think of it, could the coast line be a set up for the Keystone idea presented in the 90's comics?

https://www.hyperborea.org/flash/keystone-city.html

Grant Morrison, in Secret Origins #50 (1990) updated the tale to fit with the post-Crisis placement of both cities on the same world by having the villains keep Keystone out of phase with the rest of the world for some significant amount of time. Morrison’s story implies that it was under 10 years (“There were a couple of orphans there that day who suddenly weren’t orphans anymore”), but Brian Augustyn’s “Riddle of the Retro Robberies” (Flash 80-page Giant #2, 1999) states that it was thirty, and Mark Waid’s The Life Story of the Flash refers to it as “decades.”

Part of Keystone was already shown in the new tv show, but what if a significant part of it and the surrounding area were taken out of phase as suggested above? That could leave behind an enormous hole that the river filled in to create a new Great Lake.
 
It's been fun to see so many of the actors from the original Flash show popping up. Amanda Pays looks great! Marek Hamill looks like he's lived... but he clearly has great fun playing nutters.
 
At the Star Wars Celebration this weekend Mark Hamill was very honest about his weight. Saying that primarily doing voice work for the last couple decades he did not think about his appearance much. But he is on a specific diet now for Star Wars. He actually looked much better on the Flash compared if he had done this a few years ago. In fact he looked even thinner at the Celebration than in that episode which was shot in January.
 
So who were these warm and friendly pod people that took over Quentin and Laurel's bodies this week? Considering how dull Laurel usually is, and how insane and unsympathetic Quentin has been getting, this felt tonally at odds with Arrow.
 
The crossovers are alittle out of synch.

Oliver has not been revealed to the public yet in Flash.

Have we seen the Canary Cry in Arrow yet?
 
Like Caitlyn said, OMG. The ending puts to rest any doubt on her mind, as well as Cisco's and Barry's. Well, the secret room and the real Wells' corpse. This episode should now be in sync with the Arrow timeline, if not a few days behind.

I liked the reference to (West) Coast City. It opens up possibilities for a future GL appearance or series. :)

The villain was a bit predictable. I knew right away the antagonist was a shapeshifter, not a mind controller. I found it a bit surprising that Caitlyn didn't immediately suspect Everyman as a fake Barry.

Laurel and Cisco had a fun working dynamic. I don't suppose it was hard for Laurel to put two and two together and conclude that Barry was the Flash. It was all about the circle of trust and who worked with whom in Central City.
 
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