Sarah had a sonic device that didn't seem to require her vocalizing.
The Flash - Season 1
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Sarah had a sonic device that didn't seem to require her vocalizing.
Which is the device that Laurel gave Cisco it pimp, which Sarah had been using since day one. 
The choker collar sonic device is brand new because we just saw Cisco invent it.
I'm really wondering if Cisco isn't also a Time Traveller.
Forget understanding and reverse engineering the technology, he cobbled together that choker faster than most of us can back a cake.
I'm wondering if he hadn't built the Canary Cry weeks ago, and was just waiting for Laurel to ask for him to upgrade her tech.
The choker collar sonic device is brand new because we just saw Cisco invent it.
I'm really wondering if Cisco isn't also a Time Traveller.
Forget understanding and reverse engineering the technology, he cobbled together that choker faster than most of us can back a cake.
I'm wondering if he hadn't built the Canary Cry weeks ago, and was just waiting for Laurel to ask for him to upgrade her tech.
I don't know things were pretty chilling between them to me, not even Jow who's a trained detective could tell they're father and daughter. But then Joe's reaction to Quentin's line about keeping secrets was rather telling.
Fantastic episode, outside of some annoying shapeshifter tropes and some real facepalm moments with Barry and Caitlin being incredibly dumb!
I'm afraid I found this kind of an awkward episode. Not one of their best. The whole subplot with Laurel and Cisco felt totally tacked on, presumably as a setup for the introduction of the "Canary Cry" device in Arrow. And a lot of the rest of it just felt unfocused or contrived or not as deftly written as it could've been.
Also, it shouldn't have been that hard for Barry to find Everyman in a crowd. Just run through the crowd at superspeed and look for whoever there are two of. At least then you could narrow it down to one of two people. Not to mention that the whole "Run after him at normal speed so he won't see your powers" thing made no sense. Barry was out of Everyman's sight for a couple of minutes during that chase. It would've been faster for him to run back to STAR Labs, get his costume, and return to the chase as the Flash.
Still, I really like where they're going with Barry and Eddie. They started out as rivals, but they've really bonded now, and that's great to see. I hope Eddie doesn't end up going bad or something, as people have been expecting him to.
Right. Also, somehow they managed to make Katie Cassidy far more attractive than she's ever been to me on Arrow. Maybe it's the different hair and makeup and the brighter lighting, or maybe it's that she was actually smiling.
Also, it shouldn't have been that hard for Barry to find Everyman in a crowd. Just run through the crowd at superspeed and look for whoever there are two of. At least then you could narrow it down to one of two people. Not to mention that the whole "Run after him at normal speed so he won't see your powers" thing made no sense. Barry was out of Everyman's sight for a couple of minutes during that chase. It would've been faster for him to run back to STAR Labs, get his costume, and return to the chase as the Flash.
Still, I really like where they're going with Barry and Eddie. They started out as rivals, but they've really bonded now, and that's great to see. I hope Eddie doesn't end up going bad or something, as people have been expecting him to.
Right. Also, somehow they managed to make Katie Cassidy far more attractive than she's ever been to me on Arrow. Maybe it's the different hair and makeup and the brighter lighting, or maybe it's that she was actually smiling.
Another great episode. The conversation between Joe and Lance talking about keeping secrets seemed to make Joe feel a little uncomfortable. Hopefully this little chat will get Joe to reevaluate what he's doing with Iris.
It was nice to to see Captain Lance and Laurel outside of Arrow. They were both much more likeable, particularly Laurel. I liked her more in this episode than in the last few years of Arrow. I think as an actress Katie Cassidy is better suited to the lighter tone of something like The Flash.
The remaining episodes are shaping up to be very exciting. I can't see what to see what they have in store for us!
Edited to add: I guess I was drafting this while Christopher was typing.
Bingo. Just smiling and acting like a normal person goes a long way.
It was nice to to see Captain Lance and Laurel outside of Arrow. They were both much more likeable, particularly Laurel. I liked her more in this episode than in the last few years of Arrow. I think as an actress Katie Cassidy is better suited to the lighter tone of something like The Flash.
The remaining episodes are shaping up to be very exciting. I can't see what to see what they have in store for us!
Edited to add: I guess I was drafting this while Christopher was typing.
Bingo. Just smiling and acting like a normal person goes a long way.
A notion that someone brought up that I thought was interesting (though tonally not something I think the show/Barry would truly consider) is having Barry realize that Eddie's death would mean Eobard was never born and Barry's mother would thus be saved.
You don't have to kill him.
What's a little castration between friends?
Iris is the real kicker.
Is Eddie supposed to make babies with Iris or someone else?
If Iris is supposed to bugger off, but she won't take a hint.
She'll need a good shove.
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The Time line is already too changed for Eobard to have been born in the future.
Besides, it's in this Eobards self interest to make sure that there are not more alternates of himself upstream meddling with time and fighting alternates of the Flash as well, because that would be over egging the pudding as yet more time traveler keep crashing into his best laid plans.
Yes, I know who Rip Hunter is.
What's a little castration between friends?
Iris is the real kicker.
Is Eddie supposed to make babies with Iris or someone else?
If Iris is supposed to bugger off, but she won't take a hint.
She'll need a good shove.
...
The Time line is already too changed for Eobard to have been born in the future.
Besides, it's in this Eobards self interest to make sure that there are not more alternates of himself upstream meddling with time and fighting alternates of the Flash as well, because that would be over egging the pudding as yet more time traveler keep crashing into his best laid plans.
Yes, I know who Rip Hunter is.
As demonstrated later in the episode, Everyman could shape shift into anyone he previously came in contact with. There most likely wasn't a double in the crowd.
Wells's true identity is a piece of the puzzle that Barry doesn't have yet.
Sure, this'd be somewhat down the line.
If nobody ever finds out there's really no reason to have them be related at all, really.
Hell, maybe Reverse Flash kills Iris and Joe has to contemplate killing Eddie to change the timeline.
I don't see Barry or Joe thinking about killing Eddie, but I can see Eddie being willing to sacrifice himself. Still, I don't think it'll come to that, since it would erase everything that's happened in the series so far.
Wells steps over Eddie's corpse "You fool! Looper was awful!"
Who knows, Eddie might not even be his direct progenitor. It could be a sibling or cousin of his. Lord knows I have a ton of cousins.
Eddie had that unexplainable moment where the Reverse Flash didn't murder him a few episodes back.
I have been busy all week, so just now getting a chance to type a response:
1) This secret is BARRY’s to reveal or keep, and NOT Iris’s. What OBLIGATON does Barry have to tell her his secret. He’s not married to her, or even dating. And their “BFF” status has bene complicated by Iris’ relationship to Eddie and Barry’s feelings.
2)Let’s look at everyone who knows Barry’s secret (which seems like everyone):
2a) STAR Labs crew (Wells, Caitlin, Cisco) – They were there literally from the beginning, and have helped Barry discover his powers. They are his online support
2b) Joe ONLY found out because Barry had JUST gotten his powers, and didn’t know how/why he should hide himself. If that accidental reveal hadn’t have happened, Joe would ALSO be in the dark.And that is Barry’s adopted dad!
2c) Team Arrow – he found out their secret first, so there’s some mutual trust. Also, they are his mentors in the superhero business.
2d) Captain Cold – ONLY because Barry had to save Cisco’s brother’s life. This incident only adds to the “Don’t tell Iris” column
2e) Eddie – I forget – what was the reason given on the show to tell him? From a tactical point of view, especially for Joe, it would be harder and harder to stop the festering doubts and concerns Eddie would have of Joe’s weird behavior. Eddie could go to the Captain with his concerns, or worse, to Internal Affairs, which would blow open Barry’s ID. Now, Eddie can cover for Joe (like he did in the last episode), and Barry for that matter.
And that leaves Iris…see below (#4)
3) Do we know what happened with Mrs.West? It’s implied that she died… could it be that because she “knew Joe’s secret”, and it cost her, her life, that Joe is hesitant to draw in Iris. Also, it seems he is fine with Iris dealing with NORMAL life, whether going into dark alleys, or moving in with his partner. He feels she is a grown up when it comes toregular people…it’s this whole metahuman situation that’s a problem. Also, especially now that she’s a semi-famous/”respected” blogger…it’ll be harder to keep a secret ike that while posting stories to the general public.
4) Let’s swap genders, but keep the roles, with Barrie Allen, Joanna West and her son Irish West.
Now, Christopher, do you HONESTLY think a cop, even a woman cop, would really want her *only* begotten child unnecessarily drawn into danger, especially when their spouse is dead, and their only other child is the object of perpetual danger?
And also consider that the child a) dropped out of the Police Academy (and thus definitely no street experience), can’t even finish college in the 6 year plan (Iris is still taking undergrad electives at age 25), does dangerous stuff on a whim (writing about the Flash).
Joe would trust Iris enough to go to a dark alley…or date (and now move in with) a co-worker (knowing how that impacts ANY officer’s relationship)
Even the writing on the show all points to “Yeah, this is probably a bad decision”, but as others have said, it’s reasonable mistake to make.
Sure, a little overprotective …but no unreasonable. And Joe & Barry will soon see the ‘error of their ways with Iris.
This was a few episodes back, and in the original timeline Eobard confirmed Eddie was a "distant ancestor" right before he killed Cisco.
This was a good one. I liked the stuff with Joe and Cisco in Central City. I got a kick out of Laurel getting a voice activated Canary Cry, which brings her closer to the comics. We also got some nice ties into the current(ish) Arrow events, with Joe and Lances conversations.
The shapeshifter stuff was pretty good to. My only real issues is that I would thought have someone as intelligent as Caitlin would have been able to figure out pretty quickly that she was dealing with Everyman instead of Barry when he started acting weird.
The shapeshifter stuff was pretty good to. My only real issues is that I would thought have someone as intelligent as Caitlin would have been able to figure out pretty quickly that she was dealing with Everyman instead of Barry when he started acting weird.
To me, the phrase "distant ancestor" implies an indirect ancestor, a relative of a relative of a direct forebear, say. It could mean distant in time, but it could also mean distant in relationship, like when we talk about a distant cousin, say. So it's not definitive.
