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Yes, yes yes yes yes those videos. Especially the first one, about just how the Govt is destroying science here.
 
Credit rating safe if Adani sunk: report

A new report commissioned by conservationists has found blocking the proposed Adani coal mine will not affect Australia's credit rating.

Prominent economist Saul Eslake believes ditching the proposed Adani coal mine in Queensland won't hurt Australia's credit rating.

Mr Eslake's new report - commissioned by the Australian Conservation Foundation - found no evidence that stopping the project on environmental grounds would hurt Australia's ability to attract foreign investment.


https://www.sbs.com.au/news/credit-rating-safe-if-adani-sunk-report
 
Credit rating safe if Adani sunk: report

A new report commissioned by conservationists has found blocking the proposed Adani coal mine will not affect Australia's credit rating.

Prominent economist Saul Eslake believes ditching the proposed Adani coal mine in Queensland won't hurt Australia's credit rating.

Mr Eslake's new report - commissioned by the Australian Conservation Foundation - found no evidence that stopping the project on environmental grounds would hurt Australia's ability to attract foreign investment.


https://www.sbs.com.au/news/credit-rating-safe-if-adani-sunk-report

given that the idiots in canberra wanted to pony up $1bil to subsidise a hole in the ground which would have seen little in the way of Australian jobs created and the profits going off shore it nixing adani can only be a good thing.
 
It doesn’t fit with their worldview that Coal Is Good.

Which is very sad. That seems the limit of their worldview.

Howcome we send oil overseas for processing then its shipped back here as fuel and the oil companies dictate to govt. how much fuel we should have in reserve to keep the country going?
 
Because free trade, global markets and idiot deals for the last 50 years.

We don't even have our own oil processing facilities anymore.
 
Because free trade, global markets and idiot deals for the last 50 years.

We don't even have our own oil processing facilities anymore.

What the hell?
Who the hell makes those kind of decisions?

That's depressing.

So Hanson said no to the tax plan.. Puts Malcolm in a bit of a pickle hey.
 
You need to watch every episode of Yes Minister/Yes Prime Minister. The real enemy isn't the Opposition Party but the Public Service, who plan all this policy, and the big corporations who want to cut very dollar from costs and maximise profit.
 
You need to watch every episode of Yes Minister/Yes Prime Minister. The real enemy isn't the Opposition Party but the Public Service, who plan all this policy, and the big corporations who want to cut very dollar from costs and maximise profit.

I've watched enough of that to know that already and used to be in the public service many moons ago. The PSA may as well be a creche for the stuff that I saw go on back then.
 
WTAF????

Up the steps from the parade ground and through the solemn entrance of the Australian War Memorial, just before the room commemorating 41 Australian soldiers killed in Afghanistan, you may enter the BAE Systems Theatre. In case you didn't realise, a sign above the stage says "BAE Systems".

BAE Systems is a UK weapons maker whose bombs and planes Saudi Arabia is accused of using to commit war crimes in Yemen. BAE says it "does not know" if that’s the case.

This week, a parliamentary committee was asked exactly why the corporation's name is on a site meant to commemorate the sacrifice of war - a public monument that according to its director, former MP Dr Brendan Nelson, "embodies the soul of the nation".

The Medical Association for the Prevention of War (Australia) says the AWM accepts donations from from some of the biggest weapons manufacturers in the world, including Boeing Australia, Raytheon Australia, Lockheed Martin, Thales Australia, the Australian Submarine Corporation, and General Dynamic Land Systems.

The Association founded the International Campaign Against Nuclear Weapons, which won the Nobel Peace Prize last year. It says the AWM should have a policy against accepting funding from weapons companies that profit from ongoing conflicts.

In a submission to the federal inquiry into Canberra's national institutions, the Association says "weapons company funding of AWM program and facilities represents a highly offensive conflict of interest".


http://www.abc.net.au/triplej/progr...-sponsoring-the-national-war-memorial/9788666

How many ways can I explain that this is WRONG????

A weapons manufacturer - and a foreign one at that - wants to sponsor one of the memorials to the dead, to the young men who gave their lives. Something we, as a nation, should take in our arms and care for, not farm it out to, let's not sugar coat it, merchants of death.

They want to have some kind of interactive display, probably showing off their helicopters, amongst other things.

"War! sponsored by BAE Systems. See it now!"

I have no skin in the game. I was born overseas, and few of the Wife's family went to war (because farming was a necessary industry). But surely, surely, this is just wrong. Wrong.
 
A weapons manufacturer - and a foreign one at that - wants to sponsor one of the memorials to the dead, to the young men who gave their lives. Something we, as a nation, should take in our arms and care for, not farm it out to, let's not sugar coat it, merchants of death..

Soldier worship and romanticizing has always been the driving force behind memorials. I'm sure some will read that and get mad. But it's not been about taking soldiers in our arms and caring for them or about grief at the senseless waste of life. Soldiers have to be heroes who sacrificed their lives for our nation in this narrative, not pawns and fodder sent to far away lands for political gain. The hero narrative goes perfectly well with a weapons manufacturer, but not so well if you feel a memorial is about anger and grief.

Why are tanks and weapons displayed at RSL's and memorials? We're crying over our lost boys and displaying the weapons that killed people, whose nations are crying over their lost boys. It's a very fucked up narrative and unfortunately we are constantly hyped up with emotional displays and sentiment to continue it and this in itself means we're far less likely to protest continual military action on the part of Australia in foreign lands. Because we're not full of the anger and grief and shame that sending kids to die should fill us with, we're too busy buying poppies and eating snags and feeling proud of Our Soldiers and their effing sacrifice.
 
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Dude I am probably older than you. And I say this without trying to pick on you but that term is going to annoy even those it technically describes :lol:

Or I shall just quote Uhura: Sorry, neither.
 
Dude I am probably older than you. And I say this without trying to pick on you but that term is going to annoy even those it technically describes :lol:

Or I shall just quote Uhura: Sorry, neither.


OK sorry for the faux pa..........

But what you said was very well said.
 
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