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Hanson 2 senators QLD and 1 in NSW.

If you didn't see it look on YouTube for the meltdown on Ch7 between Abbott supporter Alan Jones and Turnbull plot leader Senator James McGrath. Awesome!
 
I don't have FTA tv so streaming the commentary on line. Can't seem to get channel 7 working so flipping between 9 and abc. And paying the sims in the background.

Which reminds me, I have wine somewhere around here.

Just saw Hanson on Channel 9. She's not claiming a senate seat yet. With 15% of the primary vote. Which is odd.
 
Swing in TAS a backlash against proposed changes to superannuation according to Eric Abetz.

No chance of a result tonight folks. Nervous few weeks ahead for Turnbull. In deep trouble you'd have to say.

Also it's probably safe to say that if the Andrews/CFA thing hadn't happened, Bill Shorten would be PM tonight.
 
I think the thing that Tasmanians are most concerned about are changes to Medicare.

I would not listen to anything Eric Abetz said about anything. I can't stand him.
 
Peter Costello is calling it for the Coalition. Overly optimistic. They may form government but it certainly isn't clear.

Interesting what will happen with Turnbull now. Even if the Coalition does win, I don't think he is safe. EDIT: Not calling a challenge. I do think their will be at least a conversation behind closed doors.
 
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Knowing that Hanson got more votes than the Science party... Not a good thing to go to bed thinking about.
That said we(SciParty) had a great response from polling booth HVT handouts.

Bleh - was holding out a sliver of hope that maybe Turnbull wouldn't be able to drag us through an equality plebiscite..
 
If anyone catches a smell of roasting meat from the Libs, that's Malcolm Turnbull cos I think his goose his cooked.

Think the Liberal "We're not like Labor" Party will soon dump it's second P.M in 3 years.
 
I saw a colum in one of the Sunday papers saying he should resign - but it was written by Andrew Bolt. I just looked at the first sentence.

dolt's had his nickers a major twist since abbott was dumped. I suspect somewhere in la-la land there's a delusion the coalition could have won if abbott was still leader.

In the meantime sky news decided to shit stir with claims that factional leaders within the ALP want shorten to resign following Labor's "loss".

Guess it was either that or fox news Australian would have to speculate on the liberal leadership.
 
Current HoR count :
Lib 65
ALP 67
Others 5.

Now let's give them each the seats they're currently ahead in :
Lib 65 + 8 = 73
ALP 67 + 5 = 72
Others 5

Now let's give them the "Others" :
Lib 73 + Katter = 74
ALP 72 + Xenophon + McGowan + Wilkie= 75
Others 1 (Bandt -- who both sides have said they won't deal with.

Hard to see how the Coalition gets there unless those undecideds break hard to the Coalition incumbents. Another election coming up?
 
About these texts sent by the Labor Party - if you had got one would you have seen 'Medicare ' as the subject of the text, or would you have thought that the text was sent by Medicare itself?

Edited to add - they should have titled the text 're Medicare' instead of 'Medicare'.
 
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Never mind who's going to form government / be PM. They're as bad as each other (refugee / asylum seeker policies equally despicable, bugger-all significant / meaningful interest in climate change, similar bullshit in various other areas) so it won't make a lot of difference (except to rusted-on ideologues and as someone who's long since outgrown partisan party politics I have minimal interest in their views).

The real concern is that we now live in a country where Hanson - someone so hateful, xenophobic, ignorant, bigoted and stupid she could give lessons to Farage and Trump - has been returned to parliament. Almost as bad, Derryn frelling Hinch will very likely join her in the Senate. Throw the Lambie creature into the mix and it's beyond embarrassing; it's actually frightening. It bodes ill for the country.

This is what people should be concerned about. The rest of it is almost trivial.
 
Never mind who's going to form government / be PM. They're as bad as each other (refugee / asylum seeker policies equally despicable, bugger-all significant / meaningful interest in climate change, similar bullshit in various other areas) so it won't make a lot of difference (except to rusted-on ideologues and as someone who's long since outgrown partisan party politics I have minimal interest in their views).

The real concern is that we now live in a country where Hanson - someone so hateful, xenophobic, ignorant, bigoted and stupid she could give lessons to Farage and Trump - has been returned to parliament. Almost as bad, Derryn frelling Hinch will very likely join her in the Senate. Throw the Lambie creature into the mix and it's beyond embarrassing; it's actually frightening. It bodes ill for the country.

This is what people should be concerned about. The rest of it is almost trivial.

Couldn't agree more. At least to the second paragraph and mostly to the first.
 
Never mind who's going to form government / be PM. They're as bad as each other (refugee / asylum seeker policies equally despicable, bugger-all significant / meaningful interest in climate change, similar bullshit in various other areas) so it won't make a lot of difference (except to rusted-on ideologues and as someone who's long since outgrown partisan party politics I have minimal interest in their views).

The real concern is that we now live in a country where Hanson - someone so hateful, xenophobic, ignorant, bigoted and stupid she could give lessons to Farage and Trump - has been returned to parliament. Almost as bad, Derryn frelling Hinch will very likely join her in the Senate. Throw the Lambie creature into the mix and it's beyond embarrassing; it's actually frightening. It bodes ill for the country.

This is what people should be concerned about. The rest of it is almost trivial.

Interesting perspective as usual. It's a worldwide phenomenon : Hanson, Trump, Farage, Sanders, Le Pen, Xenophon...people turning to populism, nationalism, and protectionism as a way to tear down a political system they don't believe is working for them. Unfortunately the jury isn't exactly out on protectionism. Embracing it ain't going to improve living standards for the battlers, in fact, quite the opposite. Nick Xenophon holding the balance of power in both houses is a big worry to me.

Like you, I fled the majors this time (well, on first preference, anyway -- ultimately in our system you have to put one of them ahead of the other). There were plenty of us who looked elsewhere. Near enough one in four Australians gave their first preference to a party other than the majors. The two party system looks over in Australia. The ALP's primary vote was under 35%. Their days of governing without some kind of left-leaning coalition partner look done. The Liberals could well be about to split on the right as well. The Australian public couldn't have been any clearer : neither major party is up to it.

My reason for voting away from the majors wasn't to do with any of those issues you mentioned (although I don't disagree with you on a lot of points), I wanted to send a message about economic management. We have a pile of debt now at the half trillion dollar mark, with another forty odd billion being added each year. We are paying interest of over a billion a month. How many schools, roads, hospitals and other public services could be provided with this money? This debt pile will never be repaid in any of our lifetimes, and we're lowering the standard of living of future generations by not tackling the problem. I'm not willing to accept that.

Last time I looked, based on today's counting, it's looking something like this :

ALP 67 locked in + ahead in 5 + Wilkie + Bandt + McGowan + Xenophon + Xenophon = 77
Coal 68 locked in + ahead in 4 + Katter = 73

Messy. A result could be weeks away.
 
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