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The Daily Show Without Jon Stewart

Kirsten Schaal would be fantastic, and I agree a female host would be a great direction to go. Though I fear Kristen's comedy style is a bit too broad and touch layered in shtick. As great as her bits are there's an element of over-the-top parody in them. Which works great for those segments but as host I fear it'd be a lot like how Colbert was.

For me I didn't much like Colbert because he was doing a parody of an O'Riley-like hyper partisan news show.

The great thing about Jon Stewart for me is that he's playing it straight. He's not doing a bit, he's not playing a character, he's playing himself. So when he goes off on a rant and expresses his thoughts and opinions on something it feels that much more powerful since it's coming at you straight. There's a reason why he's been considered and called one of the most trusted men in news right now. Because he's playing it straight.

Kristen Schaal would be hilarious, I love her bits on the show, but by and large she's doing it "as a character" and not herself.

I think Jessica Williams could make for a good replacement host because her segments are pretty hilarious and she's largely doing them without doing a bit or playing a character.

But, then the question could now be why does Jon's replacement have to come from within the show? When Kilborn left, Stewart wasn't a correspondent and they went outside for a replacement. And Stewart being from the outside is why the show went from a lighter show to being a bit more of a hard-hitting commentary on politics, politicians and the media. That's what he wanted to do rather than Kilborn's lighter, more jokey, style.

So then the question now becomes what comedians out there could replace Stewart? I'll admit I'm not too "up" on my comedians that are working today and which one has humor that's a bit more with a political slant, but is there anyone out there who could replace Stewart?

Which also makes me wonder if Stewart is leaving entirely or if he's still going to stay on as an Executive Producer and keep some creative control over the show, at least for the time-being? Because anyone who replaces the show could do just what Stewart did when he started. Take the show in a different direction.

They may not want to as much hard-hitting and biting political humor, challenging the politicians out there and the many, many problems with the news media. They may want to go more with the Jokey style Kilborn started the show with, or go in a completely different direction entirely.

Hell, Stewart's pretty strongly left-leaning, what if his replacement is right-leaning and isn't so critical of Fox News and is more critical of MSNBC and Democratic politicians?

While Stewart has certainly been critical of MSNBC, CNN and of Democrats, he does take a lot more shots at Republicans and Fox News. Granted, Fox News has a pretty strong history of their political bias and distorting facts or ignoring their own previous stances to fit their current narrative, a Right-Leaning Host may not see it that way and flip the tables and call out the Liberal Media on their hypocrisy. (Which Stewart has, indeed, done from time-to-time. But, again, he tends to be more critical of Fox News and the Right.)

Ugh, the more I think about this the more nervous I get.
 
Really? No love for Bassem Yousef? Really?

It would definitely be a bold choice. Not sure Comedy Central would go for it. And, to be honest, aside from Monday (was he on any previous segments?), I don't know much about him to say it should be him.

Aasif Mandvi, on the other hand, I have been a fan of for years.

As for why we're discussing people from within the show rather than an outsider, like Stewart himself, it's because the show, as of late, has seemed to be a springboard for talent. Carrell, Colbert, Oliver, and now Wilmore all have successful careers due to TDS. Lewis Black and John Hodgman have parlayed their bits on the show to greater fame. And, so on.
 
I'm in favor of Aisha Tyler doing any late night talk show. I was hoping she would do The Late Late Show but instead we get another white guy.
 
Just read this, & though I can see where it's coming from, I think it's something of an unrealistic suggestion

http://www.theatlantic.com/entertai...aily-show-declare-victory-on-fox-news/385381/


At it's core, even before Stewart, The Daily Show is a "Fake News" show. They have an anchor & correspondents. By it's very nature, it is a commentary on the state of our media, & therefore it will & must continue to shine a light on the foibles of it. If it's not doing that, then what's the point of a fake news show?

It's going to be damn hard to find someone who'll do it as well as Stewart, maybe impossible, but in the end, they will try, because all of the other people on that show aren't going to just stop doing what they do, & what they do most is hold a mirror up to the media.

More than anything else about Jon's presence there, his relentless adherence to that goal is what made the show as powerful & loved as it is

Personally, I don't like the notion of using any of the personalities that are already on the show as its new host. None of them are likeable enough. You have to be as likeable as Jon is in order to blast humor as genuinely. & that frequently at what is generally unpleasant. It's why Kilborn never worked out

It's not about who's the best comedian, or who can handle the task, The question isn't who's the funniest or who deserves a shot, etc... The question should be, who is the person we will LIKE the best. Likeability is why Jon has us tuning in consistently for 16 years. To do what he does with any less of it? Well... I see us being less amused by it, less invested, & then less interested, more disappointed
 
Kilborn didn't work out because he had a terrible sense of humor. Here's an actual and representative joke from the Kilborn Daily Show:

"Mariah Carey and Derek Jeter broke up today. They were both half irish and half black, a combination that left them too drunk to get high!" After which he launched into this diatribe that it's okay to make cheap racial jabs because "Hey, that's comedy!"

I think Aasif Mandvi does have the likability to be host, just because he takes the correspondent position he usually plays the unlikable position.

Personally I hope they find a fresh face with a fresh perspective.
 
I don't remember him being that bad, but it has been while (17 years?! Yikes, doesn't feel that long).

That's not to say that the joke you cited is funny, because even as a mean spirited joke, it falls flat. But I remember that I enjoyed watching his show from time to time. And even enjoyed the Late Late Show when he was hosting it.
 
Kilborn was more jokey and honestly made the show closer to the "fake news show" everyone keeps calling the Daily Show. Kilborn's show was much more like a half-hour version of SNL's "Weekend Update."

Stewart changed the show's focus to be more harder-hitting on politicians and the news media, to comment on it and be critical on it.
 
I remember loving Kilborn's show, and wasn't crazy about Stewart initially... but I was in high school at the time...
 
I've never seen an episode of the Daily Show and don't know much of anything about Stewart, but I just heard this week that NBC had tried to hire him to take over Meet the Press.

Ok, I don't get that.

I've also recently heard that a large number of the millennial generation get their news from the Daily Show.

I don't get that either. Is that true? Whatever.

I wish Stewart well in whatever he decides to do, and I hope that his career doesn't suffer a "McLean Stevenson."

But in all the stuff in the last week, this is what hit me: Brian Williams gets a "six month suspension" and later the same day(?) Jon Stewart announces that he's leaving the Daily Show later this year.

Coincidence?

I sure as hell hope so. :lol:
 
If you've never watched the Daily Show... you shoud. You really should. Especially if you have any kind of interest in politics. Or comprhend the banality of Fox News.
 
I've also recently heard that a large number of the millennial generation get their news from the Daily Show.

I don't get that either. Is that true? Whatever.
It's a talking point. Nothing more.

The majority of millennials get their news information via the web (And it's not just millennials)

I think that notion about The Daily Show is more reflecting on what tv programming millennials watch that provides news. They watch The Daily Show more than they watch CNN, MSNBC, Fox News, & Network news etc... and frankly, so do I. (GenX) Television news is a worthless cesspool, and that people would rather watch it get openly mocked is mostly a statement about that condition. It's the new rage. There's several venues now where news is commentated on by comics, that collectively are more viewed in certain demographics, than the cable news networks. News satire is a market now (In large part because of Stewart & Colbert) that is dwarfing the credibility of actual news networks.

But when the next terrorist attack happens, people aren't waiting to hear about it on a satire tv news show before they're informed about it. That's absurd. Social media & the internet is the source now. People take a responsibility on themselves to be informed. (Or not)
 
The notion I saw somewhere once is that they "get their news" from TDS simply by TDS whetting their appetites on news stories or letting them know things that are going on. They then go and get more information from more legit news-sources.

TDS turns them on to it, then they go get more information from other places.

Studies have shown that TDS viewers tend to be more knowledgeable about politics and current events than those who watch other news sources, particularly cable news ones (with Fox ranking near the bottom.)

This is why I take some task with calling The Daily Show a "fake news show" because it really isn't. New news and events they talk about are real, the field segments real, but it's more like a particularly snarky Op/Ed page. It makes fun of the events and calls out the problems and hypocrisy displayed by politicians, leaders and others in the media.
 
I think there are a lot of millennials who don't get their news from the Daily Show, but do get their opinion about the news from it.

Also, I think the fact that Daily Show viewers are more knowledgable about current events isn't a positive reflection on TDS so much as a negative reflection on non-comedy news shows.

It also shines more truth on that joke from History of the World Part I, where in the Roman times Mel Brooks played the 'Stand up philosopher'.
 
There was a more recent syndicated show Craig Kilborn did, basically the same schtick he did on the Daily Show. It didn't last very long, but one joke I remember from the ads:

"Lindsay Lohan had a wisdom tooth removed. Her friends were concerned it was the only wisdom left in her body."

Craig Kilborn is all abou taking easy celebrity targets and making the easiest possible jokes about them.

I did kind of enjoy him, when I was in high school, sometimes. That's why I watched. But, here's one joke Jon Stewart did very early in his tenure, for contrast. The moment I realized just how much better Jon Stewart was.

They were doing a segment on this Asian chorus. They played a clip of this chorus singling a song which had a lot of L sounds, all of which were pronounced as R.

I forget the correspondent who did this but I think it might have been Colbert.

Jon Stewarrt "What's the point you're trying to make?"
Colbert "I guess the point is, Japanese people have trouble pronouncing the letter L."
Jon Stewart "I think that might be because they come from a different country, and speak a different language."
Colbert "All I know, it's hirarious."

In that one segment, he reversed all the dumb jokes that Kilborn did for the entire show.
 
Found this on youtube that some might find interesting, a full episode from the Kilborn years:
[yt]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhR85mUwrXw[/yt]
 
Odd, I don';t think anyone's mentioned this:

[yt]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DhWDQXzBX_A[/yt]
 
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