I think Oliver has the likability to overcome that stigma though. After all, he's gone off and gotten his own show, and it does well. I'm just not convinced Noah has the right demeanor. IMHO he comes off way more pretentiously than Oliver, because Oliver still employs enough clowning to balance it out. In order to ease potential pomposity, you have to be willing to be the fool, the butt of the joke on occasion. Stewart has done that masterfully for years. Even Larry Wilmore does it. Where have we ever seen Noah play the silly? Anyone not American born doing social & political satire with have to double down on the clowning, like Oliver doesI think anyone with an accent trying to tell Americans what they're doing wrong is going to come off as pretentious for a lot of the casual viewers whose politics may not align so closely with the show, no matter how likable that person is. Oliver gets plenty of flack for that on his current show and did during his brief tenure as host of TDS, and you can see how they tweaked the writing as the summer went on to account for it.
Oh no doubt about that, but I'd say that's why the people who love him respect him. Back when he 1st got the job, he already had a fan base. I was among them, and it had nothing to do with his political or ideological stands.... yet. That was a respect he gained after he had proven to be likable enough to trustYou're missing an important factor in why Stewart has become such a beloved personality though. He speaks his mind and speaks it with passion. Even during book-tour promotional interviews he is more than willing to (respectfully) go for the throat when faced with someone who is clearly less than honest or promoting political philosophy he finds distasteful or idiotic.
I don't think Trevor Noah will last long as Stewart's replacement. Piers Morgan took over Larry King's place at CNN and see what happened. A non American hosting and giving his views about American politics on a cable show is not gonna still well with a lot of people on the right.
If Noah could focus the show on more international politics, then perhaps it could work as John Oliver is doing that angle right now on his show.
I think Aasif Mandvi should have been the logical choice for the Daily Show.
I wouldn't, because I see what you mean. I'm also going by what I've seen of his standup. Plus, I never found Al Madrigal & John Oliver to be assholes as just "Correspondents". Generally, you're right that the reporting comes off more pushy & hardnosed than the anchoring, but if you're paying attention, or look deeper or beyond the show, you can get a feel for what the people are really like, especially the ones who let it shine through. I mean Stephen Colbert spent a decade playing a mockup, and nobody ever really saw him that way, to the point that now he has a much more personable thing he'll be doing. That's the real miracle of Colbert, that he played a gag for ages, & still managed to get one of the most coveted talk show gigs in show business, because he still seems like a very likable guyYou can't judge how Noah was as a reporter. The reporters are supposed to come across like assholes.
I've never found Jones charming or even especially likable, but I wouldn't say he strikes me as an asshole. His character on the show is kind of greasy and unsympathetic though, so I'm sure that plays into his perception.
Playing a likable character who is still funny and a bit outrageous sometimes is something Carrel and Colbert and only a few others on the show have managed. Jones can manage it from time to time but he and Bee both have a 'quality' to them that more often than not just made me tune out from their segments.
Jones can manage it from time to time but he and Bee both have a 'quality' to them that more often than not just made me tune out from their segments.
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