Spoilers The Controversial Star Wars Opinion Thread
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I like BB-8 more than R2-D2. When he gave Rey the thumbs up and attacked Finn in defense of Poe, that lil’ droid stole my heart. Also I like his design more than Artoo.
I like Jar Jar Binx. I understand the hate but I still like him. He’s a nice guy and knowing his fate makes me sad.
The Last Jedi was a good film. Luke training Rey, the mind convos between her and Wanna-Be-Vader, the duel on Snoke’s ship… I even liked Finn and Rose’s side mission. And let’s not forget the awesomeness of force projection Luke vs Whiny Ren. Also Luke/Leia reuinion and seeing Leia use the force!
I like Jar Jar Binx. I understand the hate but I still like him. He’s a nice guy and knowing his fate makes me sad.
The Last Jedi was a good film. Luke training Rey, the mind convos between her and Wanna-Be-Vader, the duel on Snoke’s ship… I even liked Finn and Rose’s side mission. And let’s not forget the awesomeness of force projection Luke vs Whiny Ren. Also Luke/Leia reuinion and seeing Leia use the force!
I have to agree.
I like it well enough, certain parts more than others, but I find that I want to like it more than I do. I think one of my chief complaints about the film, story issues aside, is the way it looks. I don't recall the way it looked in the theater so I'm really talking about the way it looks on the bluray or Disney+. I've recently watched part of TFA on Disney+ and the difference is striking; TFA looks much better. For one thing, TROS has an unnecessary teal tint which I find incredibly distracting. I had access to the untealed version a while back and it allowed me to enjoy the film somewhat more. But there are other issues such as the questionable decision to have the visibility of various Exegol scenes depend on intermittent lightning flashes. It might have seemed like a good idea on paper. The bluray is actually slightly overlightened, which you can see in the tunnels beneath the quicksand, yet the Exegol scenes are still too dark in spite of this.
Last Jedi is easily the best of the three (I recently rewatched TFA, and was surprised how poorly it held up considering I was rather fond of it initially.) That said, I honestly really don't like the whole casino side-mission or the attempted coup plot.
To clarify; it's all good work taken in isolation. The actors all did fine jobs, production design, etc. all excellent as usual. My criticisms are solely on the conceptual level. If it was a season of TV instead of a 2hr movie, I'd be fine with either development (in the abstract, at least.)
But in the context in which they're presented it just feels like they realised that they had no idea what to do with everyone but Rey & Kylo, and just created busy work for Finn & Poe. What's worse is they they also split the main cast into *three* separate plots, two of which were dead-ends. It seems crazy to me that they un-killed Poe in the last movie because Issac & Boyega had such great chemistry, then in the next one they separate them because their chemistry is too good? Pick a lane already! I mean seriously if they can't think of a good plot that doesn't hinge on direct personal conflict between all the main characters then that's a problem with the writing, not the characters.
It feels strange to have such fundamental problems with basically two thirds of a movie I actually rather like, but I guess that's a testament to how haphazard and incoherent the ST was as a whole.
To clarify; it's all good work taken in isolation. The actors all did fine jobs, production design, etc. all excellent as usual. My criticisms are solely on the conceptual level. If it was a season of TV instead of a 2hr movie, I'd be fine with either development (in the abstract, at least.)
But in the context in which they're presented it just feels like they realised that they had no idea what to do with everyone but Rey & Kylo, and just created busy work for Finn & Poe. What's worse is they they also split the main cast into *three* separate plots, two of which were dead-ends. It seems crazy to me that they un-killed Poe in the last movie because Issac & Boyega had such great chemistry, then in the next one they separate them because their chemistry is too good? Pick a lane already! I mean seriously if they can't think of a good plot that doesn't hinge on direct personal conflict between all the main characters then that's a problem with the writing, not the characters.
It feels strange to have such fundamental problems with basically two thirds of a movie I actually rather like, but I guess that's a testament to how haphazard and incoherent the ST was as a whole.
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Hello, this is my first post in your realm. My name is Timofnine, Tertiary Adjunct of Unimatrix Zero, but you may call me Timofnine. My controversial Star Wars opinion, having never actually seen the show, is that Star Wars is a prequel to Star Trek.
https://www.trekbbs.com/threads/star-wars-rebirth-in-to-trek.313055/
Star Trek and Star Wars fans normally don’t get on, so maybe my controversial Star Wars opinion can bring us all together? Star Trek and Star Wars fans can work together to create some form of ‘Galactic Federation’ - just like the Federation in Star Trek but with some Star Wars aliens in it too. Who’s game?
https://www.trekbbs.com/threads/star-wars-rebirth-in-to-trek.313055/
Star Trek and Star Wars fans normally don’t get on, so maybe my controversial Star Wars opinion can bring us all together? Star Trek and Star Wars fans can work together to create some form of ‘Galactic Federation’ - just like the Federation in Star Trek but with some Star Wars aliens in it too. Who’s game?
Tell that to my circle of friends and Star Wars group.
TLJ manages to piss me off pretty much right from the get-go. ( This despite how good it looks, and it often looks very good. Some of the Ahch-To shots I'd like to frame and hang on a wall. ) Forget the mom joke, BB-8 fixes Poe's ship by ramming his head into a malfunctioning control panel. Then the film gives us a bomber squadron somehow comprised of the slowest ships we've ever seen in SW. ( Not to be outdone, nearly five years later the Obi-Wan show placed our hero's fate in the hands of the slowest droid we had ever seen. ) The film seems to have forgotten that the bombing run in TFA was carried out by X-wings. As if that's not enough, the bombers fly so close together that a destructing TIE takes out all but one of them. The bombs fall downward out of the remaining ship - not a problem since that's the way it worked for TIE bombers in TESB. The same can't be said for Paige Tico's ship as it inexplicably plummets downward to its demise. IN SPAAAAACE! Meanwhile, Leia's cruiser risks destruction by the dreadnaught as it waits patiently in sitting duck mode for the fighters to return before it jumps to hyperspace, as if the fighters can't just jump away on their own. ( Never mind the queasy feeling that the writer somehow never watched the other movies. How did Luke get to the island? ) Next we discover that the Resistance somehow took off from their base with an insufficient amount of fuel. Seems like a bit of an oversight! ( For some reason Disney-Lucasfilm became obsessed with fuel-related stories during this time period. ) This gets us to the infamous slow-speed chase, the Raddus' shields allowing anyone to just fly on in, nobody seeming to realize they're in Crait's system until the giant disc of Crait is right outside the window, previously unheard-of hyperspace ramming, GAH! As cited above, the B plot is something to keep other characters busy while Rey/Luke/Kylo are doing the important stuff. This is because TLJ's basic plot structure is blatantly copied from TESB. TLJ is so slavish in its dedication to said plot that it even copies TESB's original sin - the Falcon getting to Bespin with no hyperdrive. ( As Din Djarin might have said, hold my beer. ) Imagine not getting why hyperspace is necessary in Star Wars, or equivalently, why warp is necessary in Star Trek! And the cherry on top of the film's stupidity cake has to be that Finn & Rose are able to leave the space chase by going to a casino. In other words, the whole Resistance could have escaped that way! 
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I really like The Phantom Menace. For me it’s the best of the Prequel Trilogy. I thought maybe it was because of nostalgia (my first SW movie) but I’ve watched it in recent years and it still holds up.
With the sequel trilogy, they actually shot a duology and not a trilogy. TFA & TLJ are one film, and TROS is the second. The third film has yet to be made.
TLJ is the best Star Wars film since Star Wars.
Not to nitpick too much in the controversial opinions thread but...these jumped out
They literally show an X-Wing under the water. That's answered in the film.
Art imitating life, much like the Rebels are the Viet-Cong.
Um...they watched Episode 1 where Anakin flies right in to the Trade Federation's hold, after being told the "Deflector shields are too strong!" by another pilot.
That's the point. Why does the film otherwise act as if fighters can't go to hyperspace on their own?
Anakin flies in at the same time as droid fighters are flying out, when the shield is momentarily down to let them out.
Not all fighters are hyperspace capable.
Yes. So one would imagine if the shields can go momentarily down then the same can happen with an escape pod. To me, it makes perfect sense.
But X-wings and A-wings are, that was the point. And anyone who watched the prior film would presumably know that Poe's ship can go to hyperspace.
There weren't any escape pods - or anything else - going out in the relevant scene(s).
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Yes. And my comment was in answer to "How did Luke get to the Island." If I misunderstood then I apologize.
I would imagine bypassing it briefly is quite easy in an emergency. Otherwise escape pods would be useless.
The ship was still in the planet's gravity well. If D'Qar is the same size of Earth, then at that distance (based on the size of the planet on screen) those ships would have still been effected by the gravity.
I saw a video on how the bombs would have still worked even without the magnetic launchers that did the math.
How? It was a small 3-4 seater shuttle, I doubt they had enough for the entire resistance.
There's no evidence of that.
Star Wars has always had 2 different types of shields. Shields that block everything and shields that just block lasers.
Most of the time we only see the kind of block lasers on ships. How else could of the Millennium Falcon attach itself to the backside of a Star Destroyer? Or why the Star Destroyers had to blow up the asteroids.
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