the CGI better be good..

[Kpnuts]

I think the planet imploding looks great actually.

 

[FordSVT]

^Me too. Looks like a planet being sucked into a singularity from the inside out.

 

[Tom Servo]

I know that some of you have liked the CGI in NEMESIS and INSURRECTION...I haven't. I think both those movies had very crappy CGI and my 'non' STAR TREKS, who I dragged to see the movie, totally made fun of it BOTH times....

The CGI better work. Those ships better look like they actually have MASS. And so far, I have liked the CGI we have seen EXCEPT for one shot...the plant folding in on it's self...not buying that scene...but we shall see..we shall see...

Rob

It's been so long since I watched INS or NEM, I don't recall how well or not their CGI appeared. 'Bout time for a revisit...

I too had a beef with that planet imploding shot, I decided not to bring it up but will now vent about it, even on the big screen it looked kinda cheap. In one of my caps of it, the yellow streak from the INS poster is faintly visible, (hope that's not a bad omen) cutting across the planet and to its right, the arrangement of background stars look like the Scarecrows mask. Here it is. I don't know how that happened.

The ships look very real so far...

That streak I think, the yellow one, is the drill beam from the previous shot. I think you captured it before it could fully fade from one shot to another.

 

[JoeZhang]

I saw the trailer on imax last weekend and if that's an indicator, the cgi is going to be first rate...

 

[Argus Skyhawk]

I find it astounding that anyone is complaining about the jaw-droppingly amazing imploding planet shot, but to each his own.

 

[miraclefan]

I was not a fan of ''INSURECTION''s cgi, to be honest it looked so bad, espeacialy that scene where the ENT ''Flips'' over from that warp-core explosion, that I thought it was a model! And those ''Son'a'' ships were way to glossy!

 

[THE CHEBB]

I was not a fan of ''INSURECTION''s cgi, to be honest it looked so bad, espeacialy that scene where the ENT ''Flips'' over from that warp-core explosion, that I thought it was a model! And those ''Son'a'' ships were way to glossy!

Yeah and that was the best part of the movie...

 

[StarMan]

Re: Imploding planet. Is it bad CGI or the fact it looks so unusual and alien?

The CGI in this movie is top notch - period. I expect to be blown away when I leave the theatre (and hopefully by the movie as a whole), unlike Insurrection's final shot of the Enterprise leaving orbit of the Ba'ku planet. I swear I could make out the frigging pixels in that shot.

 

[Jeyl]

This is Industrial Light and Magic. If there's anything you should be worried about is if it's under the direction of prequel-era George Lucas.

 

[shapeshifter]

It's been so long since I watched INS or NEM, I don't recall how well or not their CGI appeared. 'Bout time for a revisit...

Coincidentally AMC aired NEM last night so I viewed it. My conclusion on its CGI work is; the small things, (Senate attack, shuttlecraft flying, Data's face on the B4 head, Scorpion fighter escape scenes & the Scimatar cloaking effects) are done effectively imo, but the large items, (Enterprise*, Scimatar, and their battles) are not.

*One exception, when the ENT flips over as it flies by and goes to warp. The lighting of that scene still sucked but the maneuver was striking.

 

[RobertScorpio]

It's been so long since I watched INS or NEM, I don't recall how well or not their CGI appeared. 'Bout time for a revisit...

Coincidentally AMC aired NEM last night so I viewed it. My conclusion on its CGI work is; the small things, (Senate attack, shuttlecraft flying, Data's face on the B4 head, Scorpion fighter escape scenes & the Scimatar cloaking effects) are done effectively imo, but the large items, (Enterprise*, Scimatar, and their battles) are not.

*One exception, when the ENT flips over as it flies by and goes to warp. The lighting of that scene still sucked but the maneuver was striking.

Ummm...yeah I agree. Those scenes were okay. But the space FX were a little weak. The thing is this though; can't they (producers) see what we see?

And when discussing this sometime back someone said that some of the CGI for NEMESIS was done by a team that did some of the FX for ILM...not sure what that means...but oh well..

Rob

 

[SalvorHardin]

Ummm...yeah I agree. Those scenes were okay. But the space FX were a little weak. The thing is this though; can't they (producers) see what we see?

I'm sure they see it too.
The problem though is that a lot depends on how much you have to spend on your CGI.
If you budget's low, you are going to get a mediocre result no matter who does the job.

 

[clint g]

Some how I get the feeling that the CGI wont be a problem in this movie

 

[shapeshifter]

I thought of the space effects but left it out to see if anyone would mention it. In three words: Too. Much. Green. Shessh, they should call that the Green Nebula. I know why they used so much green but it came across as cliched.

 

[datas_cat_spot]

This is Industrial Light and Magic. If there's anything you should be worried about is if it's under the direction of prequel-era George Lucas.

What the fuck are you talking about?

 

[RobertScorpio]

This is Industrial Light and Magic. If there's anything you should be worried about is if it's under the direction of prequel-era George Lucas.

What the fuck are you talking about?

yeah...what do you mean. Because I liked the FX to TRANSFORMERS and IRONMAN..and they were done by ILM..well..I think they were...

Rob

 

[RAMA]

I know that some of you have liked the CGI in NEMESIS and INSURRECTION...I haven't. I think both those movies had very crappy CGI and my 'non' STAR TREKS, who I dragged to see the movie, totally made fun of it BOTH times....

The CGI better work. Those ships better look like they actually have MASS. And so far, I have liked the CGI we have seen EXCEPT for one shot...the plant folding in on it's self...not buying that scene...but we shall see..we shall see...

Rob

I think Nemesis' FX were much better than Insurrection's. They were probably the best since STTMP. Everyone I showed the movie were pretty impressed by them (and the movie--non-trekkers all) Having said that, they don't look nearly as "solid" and realsitic as ST's FX.

RAMA

 

[BolianAuthor]

After seeing Star Crash, I will never again complain about Trek's FX.

 

[RobertScorpio]

I know that some of you have liked the CGI in NEMESIS and INSURRECTION...I haven't. I think both those movies had very crappy CGI and my 'non' STAR TREKS, who I dragged to see the movie, totally made fun of it BOTH times....

The CGI better work. Those ships better look like they actually have MASS. And so far, I have liked the CGI we have seen EXCEPT for one shot...the plant folding in on it's self...not buying that scene...but we shall see..we shall see...

Rob

I think Nemesis' FX were much better than Insurrection's. They were probably the best since STTMP. Everyone I showed the movie were pretty impressed by them (and the movie--non-trekkers all) Having said that, they don't look nearly as "solid" and realsitic as ST's FX.

RAMA

Better than Khan? Sorry, I just don't see it...even TREK 3s effects are better IMO...NEMESIS's CGI let me down....but since the rest of the movie was pretty bad as well, it kind of makes a perfect match...just keeping it real..

Rob

 

[ST-One]

I know that some of you have liked the CGI in NEMESIS and INSURRECTION...I haven't. I think both those movies had very crappy CGI and my 'non' STAR TREKS, who I dragged to see the movie, totally made fun of it BOTH times....

The CGI better work. Those ships better look like they actually have MASS. And so far, I have liked the CGI we have seen EXCEPT for one shot...the plant folding in on it's self...not buying that scene...but we shall see..we shall see...

Rob

I think Nemesis' FX were much better than Insurrection's. They were probably the best since STTMP. Everyone I showed the movie were pretty impressed by them (and the movie--non-trekkers all) Having said that, they don't look nearly as "solid" and realsitic as ST's FX.

RAMA

Better than Khan? Sorry, I just don't see it...even TREK 3s effects are better IMO...NEMESIS's CGI let me down....but since the rest of the movie was pretty bad as well, it kind of makes a perfect match...just keeping it real..

Rob

Nemesis had some pretty good CGI. The crash sequence (a combination of model and CGI) and the shuttle launch sequence are among the best.