The Casting of this series is extremely bad

[Gilora]

Yeah, I don't get the sermon thing. I mean her personal logs just seem to be her...personal musings on the situation. Thematic exposition rather than straight boring exposition.

Although it seems people want more of the latter: "We're currently in orbit around/ en route to [insert planet] to [insert mission]. The inhabitants here have problems with [possible disaster or conflict]. The situation is [insert exciting adjective], but I have every confidence in my crew to resolve this with minimal casualties." Rinse repeat.

I think the only time Michael has sounded lecture-y is when she's addressing Starfleet personnel in a public speech (like the award ceremony) or when she has to publicly rebuke Starfleet (re: Cornwell's approval of genocide). Because that's the point of her story arc, realizing where she went wrong at the Battle at the Binary Stars and wanting to return to the Federation ideals she believed in.

I find her far less self-righteous and sanctimonious, for example, than Picard or Janeway or Sisko were in their moralizing speeches. And she's a lot less hypocritical than the latter two, imo. Picard had this "we're more evolved than you aliens" air to him which, upon re-watches, now irritates the heck out of me.

I think Burnham's monologues are essentially what she talks about in the opening episode of this season: an exploration of the human condition. The journey of self-discovery is a big focus of this show.

Her "Space -- the Final Frontier" intro was extra.

 

[Mutai Sho-Rin]

I simply have to 100% disagree with the OP’s assessment. Thoroughly enjoying all the cast so far.

 

[Alan Roi]

Yeah, I don't get the sermon thing. I mean her personal logs just seem to be her...personal musings on the situation. Thematic exposition rather than straight boring exposition.

Although it seems people want more of the latter: "We're currently in orbit around/ en route to [insert planet] to [insert mission]. The inhabitants here have problems with [possible disaster or conflict]. The situation is [insert exciting adjective], but I have every confidence in my crew to resolve this with minimal casualties." Rinse repeat.

I think the only time Michael has sounded lecture-y is when she's addressing Starfleet personnel in a public speech (like the award ceremony) or when she has to publicly rebuke Starfleet (re: Cornwell's approval of genocide). Because that's the point of her story arc, realizing where she went wrong at the Battle at the Binary Stars and wanting to return to the Federation ideals she believed in.

I find her far less self-righteous and sanctimonious, for example, than Picard or Janeway or Sisko were in their moralizing speeches. And she's a lot less hypocritical than the latter two, imo. Picard had this "we're more evolved than you aliens" air to him which, upon re-watches, now irritates the heck out of me.

I think Burnham's monologues are essentially what she talks about in the opening episode of this season: an exploration of the human condition. The journey of self-discovery is a big focus of this show.

Well, at least they won't be grousing about her performing a eulogy at 's funeral because, isn't that what 'natural people' do? Oh, wait, they already have.

 

[thribs]

It is rather bad that the best characters so far have been Lorca and Pike, and they're just one season long characters.
I wish they just made Mount someone new and kept him on.

 

[Succubint]

Her intro this season gave me goosebumps. I loved it. Probably because it was exactly what I'd assumed from the start, in terms of Discovery's premise. If Pike or Spock had been the one to say it, would it have been just as extra? I have a sneaking suspicion more people would have been fine with it. JMO, and YMMV, of course.

 

[Mudd]

Her "Space -- the Final Frontier" intro was extra.

God, that was awful.

 

[Mudd]

Funny how they never had a problem with Shatner, Stewart or Brooks offer similar monologues.

Less true than you think. The stilted nature of dialogue in the Betman era Trek shows was a matter of complaint among not only fans but at times the writers themselves.

 

[Alan Roi]

Less true than you think. The stilted nature of dialogue in the Betman era Trek shows was a matter of complaint among not only fans but at times the writers themselves.

That's fine and very true from what I heard. But a dialogue is not a monologue.

 

[XCV330]

Someone really thought that gif is clever? Wow. People do have too much time on their hands.

I'll let me know that. thanks

 

[Dukhat]

I simply have to 100% disagree with the OP’s assessment. Thoroughly enjoying all the cast so far.

Too bad that the OP hasn’t bothered to return to this thread to contest anyone else’s responses. I wonder if this was just one of those “I’m just gonna blab my feelings about how I hate something” posts, and then proceed to completely forget about it.

 

[Midquest]

In light of tonight's episode, I'd like to offer an alternative hypothesis: Sonequa Martin-Green is very, very good.

 

[Jayson1]

I love Tilly as a character and the actress and her talent. I don't quite bye her being on a command track though. She doesn't seem like someone who has the personality or skills to lead in that way. I could see her working at a place like Starfleet Headquarters but not as a Captain. She would make I think a great instructor at the Academy and maybe someday being put in charge of the Academy. You know who she reminds me of. Celes on "Voyager." Well more competent than Celes but maybe someone whose future isn't on a starship.

Jason

 

[Gilora]

If Pike or Spock had been the one to say it, would it have been just as extra?

Yes. I'm tired of the "Space, the final frontier ..." speech.

 

[Gilora]

I have a sneaking suspicion more people would have been fine with it. JMO, and YMMV, of course.

Why do you have that suspicion?

 

[Gilora]

In light of tonight's episode, I'd like to offer an alternative hypothesis: Sonequa Martin-Green is very, very good.

She is! The writers need to keep the soliloquies at the beginning or end down to a minimum, however.

And her funeral speech sounded like the Brother intro. That's bad writing.

 

[Infern0]

Her intro this season gave me goosebumps. I loved it. Probably because it was exactly what I'd assumed from the start, in terms of Discovery's premise. If Pike or Spock had been the one to say it, would it have been just as extra? I have a sneaking suspicion more people would have been fine with it. JMO, and YMMV, of course.

Yes

It was OTT

 

[Alan Roi]

She is! The writers need to keep the soliloquies at the beginning or end down to a minimum, however.

And her funeral speech sounded like the Brother intro. That's bad writing.

Or she's plagiarizing herself. Even good writers are known for doing that.

 

[SolarisOne]

In light of tonight's episode, I'd like to offer an alternative hypothesis: Sonequa Martin-Green is very, very good.

And she's finally getting good material to portray this season. Her performance was hindered by a lack of character moments last season.

 

[The Rock]

I think they really got the wrong person to play Spock. He doesn't sound or look anything like Leonard Nimoy. At least Zachary Quinto looked and sounded fairly similar to Leonard Nimoy! I'm fine with the rest of the cast though.

 

[cooleddie74]

Of all the problems I have with DSC the casting isn't one of them. The series doesn't have issues because of its cast, it has them because of the writing and to a lesser extent aesthetic choices.