Terminator VI

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  1. P Tom

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    That deleted Sergeant Candy scene is from T3, not T2.
     
  2. Marsden

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    I liked that scene, but I can see why it's not everyone's favorite. I think the look and accent together sound more intimidating, which is why he was cast in the first place, but having that Gomer Pyle voice come out breaks expectations and the stereotype of the "big scary man" and then having this smaller normal sized scientist use his voice was an interesting way to tie it together. Sgt. Candy was basically a nice guy and had nothing to do with how the terminators behaved.
     
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  3. The Lensman

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    If they're the ones I read, then it's just more of the same tired shit.
     
  4. Mr. Adventure

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    This isn't really related to Terminator VI but it seemed like a good place to dump this.
    From a new favorite deepfaker: Stallone in T2:

    The future's going to be interesting.
     
  5. Mr. Laser Beam

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    Whoopsies. :alienblush:

    The Terminator wiki says that Samuel L. Jackson, of all people, was the voice of Candy. :lol: Can anyone confirm?
     
  6. Guy Gardener

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    If Skynet designed them.

    Humans could have designed everything before judgement day.

    Although Genesys, shows an alt universe Skynet from a more distant Future who had deliberated on technology that Skynet 2027 couldn't figure out, and found lethal solutions.
     
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  7. Tosk

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    I doubt it. It doesn't sound like him (even "doing a voice") and any reference to it being him goes back to that wiki entry, which is itself completely unsourced. (Except other places propagating it, also unsourced.)

    They certainly designed a lot of what Skynet uses. The Terminator is built using designs that pre-date Judgment Day, as Reese says in the first film, "Cyberdyne Systems Model 101".
     
  8. Guy Gardener

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    Post Judgement Day would there be an internet to hack from to find out what skynet calls everything? And if there was, would a hacker be able to fight Skynet on a level playing field?

    Sarah would have "gotten" as much information on Cyberdyne's long term plans and specs pre judgment day. She maybe took a crowbar to a file case and took hard copy blue prints. So Sarah was training people how to fight every model of Terminator, for specific weak spots, a generation before Judgement day, and two generations before Skynet had the tech and resources to implement the plans it had on file.
     
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  9. Cutie McWhiskers

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    Naah. They use BeOS, it multitasked better and was more efficient. :D
     
  10. Cutie McWhiskers

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    Remember that movie from 1985... the one with the 58 year old playing a young spy, who went by the name of "James Bond"? Remember all the flak people were making about "Roger Moore is way too old to play a convincing young agile spy?" There was rather a lot of flak... what's changed since then? Human biological characteristics making a 60 year old body no different to a 30 year old's? General evolution doesn't work that way, not overnight...

    I also did a 36 second web search, which confirmed there were plenty of people in fact DID complain about Bruce Willis, Sylvester Stallone, and Harrison Ford being too old to return to their respective iconic parts. That one's too easy to debunk so why would you allege "no one seems to mind" in the first place, since that is patently untrue?

    Though, yes, some were claiming they were not too old. Heck, even Roger got a pass for the most part because his Bond was more witty and funny rather than being just an action romp. Lots of claims abound... I didn't go too much in depth in reading articles and commentators, but as the world is made up of all types, I'm sure some of them used Roger Moore as an example - the paradigm argument is sufficiently convoluted enough already... maybe the critics will come back and play equal service to Hamilton the way they were defending the aging guys, ageism doesn't hide behind any single gender. How old is too old anyway, in playing an agile human character that isn't part cyborg or anything else except a human? Don't believe me? By age 60, people will figure it out on their own. :D

    Lastly, it's not impossible for SOME people to be comparatively well off after that length of time, a span of several decades, which is where some of the complaints of "realism" begin... in which case, have octogenarians do the same roles or infants... it might be easier to sell the octogenarian, infants don't arrive ready-trained/pre-programmed.
     
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  11. Guy Gardener

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    Kyle said that Skynet nuked Russia because the Army tried to turn it off.

    In T3, not only didn't the Army not turn it off, but Skynet was on the the internet, and couldn't be turned off. No dedicated servers. However Baby Skynet was in communication with the Terminatirx or overwritten by the Terminatrix, or the virus that she released, on orders from old man Skynet.

    Either baby Skynet was a victim, a hostage, murdered dead, or he bowed to peer pressure and stockholm syndromed the rest of his life.
     
  12. Reverend

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    I think by the time you get to T3 the timeline is so janked, there's no telling what's the chicken and what's the egg anymore. Even the first movie contains two bootstrap paradoxes; 1) the chip skynet built ends up creating skynet and 2) Sarah conceived and prepared John to be a leader because John sent his own to-be father back in time.
    So Skynet sending back a patch to get it's younger self moving is just more of the same.
     
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  13. Tosk

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    It was The Terminator in T2 who said that. [/pointless correction]
     
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    That made it funny tho :D
     
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    Clever idea but it does not work at all. In a fully clothed scene maybe. But Arnold and Sly have radically different bodies. Their physiques are as iconic as their faces. The whole time I am thinking there is Sly’s face on Arnold body. From the side or back it is totally Arnold.
     
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  16. Guy Gardener

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    30 years after Judgement day, 30 years of malnutrician, plauge, famine, neglect and radiation, no one in their 20s is going to have a physique like 34 year old Arnold.

    Terminators, to be convincing, given the environment, should've been lean and worn to look a little like the rat-eating dregs scurrying through the burnt out cursed rubble.

    Terminators disguised as seaguls, dropping a hand full of marbles from 600 feet.
     
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  17. OCD Geek

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    The reason James Cameron movies work in the first place is that focus on character amidst the sci-fi action shenanigans. Him and Spielberg are the kings of narrative economy and emotional blockbusters. Honestly, if the leaks are true then Linda Hamilton and Arnold could potentially have a ton of great material to work with. The key is going to be Billy Ray's final script.

    Will Dark Fate be 60% spectacle, 40% small character moments like the first two? Or, like Rise of the Machines and Salvation, will it be 80-90% spectacle to the detriment of the story that it's trying to tell? And whatever the fuck Genysis was.

    The Terminator was originally going to be played be Lance Henriksen with the original concept being some random normal looking dude on the street could be a robot from the future sent to kill you, but they eventually decided to go a different route and cast him as one of the cops instead.
     
  18. The Wormhole

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    And then of course OJ Simpson was considered but ultimately rejected because James Cameron didn't think anyone would believe him as a heartless killer.
     
  19. Guy Gardener

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    Skynet could have looked through the history books for successfull murderers and took a tempoary liking to OJ?
     
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