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Spoilers Tech issue with 1x06

They can manufacture a ton of gemstones on their ship and can feed/cloth themselves. You don't know how they can do that without replication technology therefore it was done with replication technology. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_ignorance. It's not my job to explain how they do it without replication technology. The burden of proof is on you to prove that they can.
Nope. It's on you. You're the one saying it isn't.
 
So from "Catspaw"...

They can manufacture a ton of gemstones on their ship and can feed/cloth themselves. You don't know how they can do that without replication technology therefore it was done with replication technology. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_ignorance. It's not my job to explain how they do it without replication technology. The burden of proof is on you to prove that they can.
Yeah... um, are you really not seeing the irony here? The whole OP and every other complaint in this thread are textbook arguments from ignorance.
 
So like replicators, then. Because that's what they are. You make you selection and voilà there it is.
We're already approaching an era of 3D printing food. There's no reason that a mess hall can't be provided with 3D printers that assemble nutritional, if somewhat inferior, meals within a few minutes. A starship might also maintain a proper galley ... to cook meals for special occasions and their temperamental captain.
 
I think the difference works like this:

1. In Enterprise, they have machines which recycle organic matter into whatever foods they need be it beef or what not which is fantastically advanced by our standards but comes across like growing in a vat would to us. The food is then assembled like a fast food restaurant.

2. In TNG, the tech has advanced to the point you can literally conjure anything like magic.
 
Nope. It's on you. You're the one saying it isn't.
Wrong, Harry Kim said it. Its your job to prove they can. Replicators cause matter to materialize out of thin air. If the food processors work that way in TOS, why are these tribbles there?

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Looks like the food falls from above like a typical vending machine to me.
 
Wrong, Harry Kim said it. Its your job to prove they can. Replicators cause matter to materialize out of thin air. If the food processors work that way in TOS, why are these tribbles there?
They go were the food is.
Harry's an idiot.
 
There are no words for tonight's episode? Holodecks are not supposed to exist in this timeline




Writers do not give a shit about canon. Canon be damned!



http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Holodeck

Seeing as in 10-20 years time non solid holographic simulations will likely be in our reality its not a stretch.


And the key is non solid. These are not the holograms and holodecks in TNG. There are just empty light shells.
 
With the forcefields, replicators, Tthe holograms and now the holodeck, they've basically reconned all 24th century technology into the pre-TOS 23rd.

It's a reboot, and that's okay.

Or maybe Kirk and Spock just chose not to use any of this stuff, because reasons. That makes them look like complete idiots. Thats not okay.
 
There are no replicators of the kind TNG uses. Matter synthesizers, yes. This fits with TOS canon. The pretend battle was basically laser tag, but with holographic images of Klingon soldiers. A far cry from the total immersion of TNG.

There's no way a perfectly nice and hot bowl of chicken soup can 'fall from above' like a vending machine. That was ordered in that TOS ep with them flung back in time to 1969 and the fighter pilot.
 
There are no replicators of the kind TNG uses. Matter synthesizers, yes. This fits with TOS canon. The pretend battle was basically laser tag, but with holographic images of Klingon soldiers. A far cry from the total immersion of TNG.

There's no way a perfectly nice and hot bowl of chicken soup can 'fall from above' like a vending machine. That was ordered in that TOS ep with them flung back in time to 1969 and the fighter pilot.

Uhm....in real life you can order chicken soup from a vending machine.

You'd have a bowl slide in and then the soup pour into it.
 
So? Doesn't mean the technology didn't exist earlier then that.
Except the TAS "rec room" is a little awkward next to TNG where everyone is amazed at the holodeck technology... which DSC (and TAS) wants us to believe is an entire century old.

As I said before, they're deliberately changing anything they want, so why are we pretending otherwise? It's a reboot. And that's okay.
 
Wrong, Harry Kim said it. Its your job to prove they can. Replicators cause matter to materialize out of thin air. If the food processors work that way in TOS, why are these tribbles there?

GQkho4D.jpg


Looks like the food falls from above like a typical vending machine to me.
Wow, you're really not letting this go, are you... you're seriously arguing the Enterprise was using vending machines? :guffaw: They're literally called food synthesizers, in dialogue, in TOS. What do you think that word means? They were even reprogrammed for Klingon food once. Basically, your only basis for this interpretation is taking one line completely literally and ignoring everything else, including the context given by the line right before it.

Nah, it couldn't possibly be that Janeway and Kim were referring to tech being more primitive than what they were used to... it must be that VOY was retconning anything remotely hologram or replicator related from existing before the 2300s!
 
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