Spoilers Tech issue with 1x06

[Kor]

It has the same power as fan fiction in another words. Star Trek writers can copy elements into their stories but does not make the fan fiction canon by doing so.

More like the officially licensed novels, not fan fiction. Some aspects of licensed Treklit were used as background for ST09 and STD, and probably ENT S4 when the Reeves-Stevenses were involved.

But professional writers and producers avoid reading fan fiction (as well as unsolicited scripts or story ideas) as a matter of policy, to avoid liabilities such as accusation of stealing somebody's idea.

Kor

 

[BillJ]

Remember, the Prime Timeline was altered by the Xindi Attack. Technology and minor differences are all possible now

Then it really isn't the Prime timeline anymore.

It is also a copy of her, and not being transmitted from Ship to ship or over long distances.

I would imagine the data is compressed and the holoimage is generated by the receiving ship. So holomirror and holomessage should really have the same integrity.

 

[marsh8472]

From Voyager "Flashback"

JANEWAY: It would seem that Captain Sulu decided not to enter that journey into his official log. The day's entry makes some cryptic remark about the ship being damaged in a gaseous anomaly and needing repairs, but nothing else.
KIM: You mean he falsified his logs?
JANEWAY: It was a very different time, Mister Kim. Captain Sulu, Captain Kirk, Dr. McCoy. They all belonged to a different breed of Starfleet officer. Imagine the era they lived in. The Alpha Quadrant still largely unexplored. Humanity on verge of war with Klingons. Romulans hiding behind every nebula. Even the technology we take for granted was still in its early stages. No plasma weapons, no multiphasic shields. Their ships were half as fast.
KIM: No replicators, no holodecks. You know, ever since I took Starfleet history at the academy, I always wondered what it would be like to live in those days.

and we've seen replicators and holodecks in this series already

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

the Prime Timeline was altered by the Xindi Attack.

No, it wasn't.

 

[BillJ]

and we've seen replicators and holodecks in this series already

If it is supposed to be Prime it is clear they are retconning a retcon.

 

[Kemaiku]

If it is supposed to be Prime it is clear they are retconning a retcon.

But they've called replicators "molecular synthesisers" and just not named the holodeck, so it's all fine...

 

[Nerys Myk]

From Voyager "Flashback"



and we've seen replicators and holodecks in this series already

Harry must have slept through history or his instructor sucked at his job

 

[BillJ]

But they've called replicators "molecular synthesisers" and just not named the holodeck, so it's all fine...

This is why I find it easier to treat each show as its own distinct thing, only beholden to its own internal consistency.

 

[Kemaiku]

This is why I find it easier to treat each show as its own distinct thing, only beholden to its own internal consistency.

It's definitely another branch off of the Prime universe, but not in it anymore. Something fractured this one off years ago, probably Paul's first experiments 12 years ago.

 

[WarpFactorZ]

From Voyager "Flashback"



and we've seen replicators and holodecks in this series already

Which is a ridiculous statement for Kim to have made, since a whole bunch of things is TOS support the idea of replicators. Being able to produce clothing appropriate to the planet of the week (Nazi uniforms, etc...), Kirk telling Trelane that the ship could manufacture tons of jewels on the Enterprise (Catspaw), and so forth.

Plus, the food dispensers were clearly replicators, not vending machines that drop down cardboard cups and plates.

 

[marsh8472]

 

[Dukhat]

Oh it's canon all right. Just like TOS, TAS, TNG, DS9, VOY, ENT, the TOS films, and the Abrams films. Hell, even that piece-of-crap-movie-that-made-no-sense-whatsoever STV:TFF is canon.

Maybe you're confusing "canon" with "continuity." They are not remotely the same thing. And as far as that goes, DSC is most assuredly not in continuity with past Trek shows.

 

[Timo]

...Although it's pretty difficult to name even one line of dialogue that would not be in perfect continuity.

Timo Saloniemi

 

[-Brett-]

They made it pretty clear that they didn't care about "canon" several months ago when they revealed that Michael is Spock's long lost sister.

How many times are we going to pretend to be surprised?

 

[zar]

From Voyager "Flashback"

and we've seen replicators and holodecks in this series already

Hmm, so the food slots from TOS weren't canon either, then? Or perhaps the answer is right there in the previous line: "the technology we take for granted was still in its early stages."

Basically, Kim's line here is akin to how many people today consider there to have been no computers or internet before the late 90s.

 

[marsh8472]

Hmm, so the food slots from TOS weren't canon either, then? Or perhaps the answer is right there in the previous line: "the technology we take for granted was still in its early stages."

Basically, Kim's line here is akin to how many people today consider there to have been no computers or internet before the late 90s.

The "food slots" or "food synthesizers" are canon, now can you point out where it says they function like replicators? Janeway and Kim were speaking about the post-5 year mission era, events from the Star Trek 6 movie no less (year 2293), when they said the technology was in its early stages. Early stages does not mean common place on every star ship like we see a decade before Kirk 37 years earlier (year 2256). World Wide Web was created in 1991. 37 years before that they were still over a decade away from the early stages of the internet.

 

[WarpFactorZ]

The "food slots" or "food synthesizers" are canon, now can you point out where it says they function like replicators?

How else would they work?

 

[marsh8472]

How else would they work?

Like a fancy vending machine.

 

[WarpFactorZ]

Like a fancy vending machine.

Oh yes. Where does one store enough food and water to feed hundreds of people for extended journeys of several years?

I've already pointed out that Kirk said in TOS that they could manufacture huge amounts of things on their ship. What did he mean by that? They make them in the shop?

From another angle: show us where it says they DON'T act like replicators.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Like a fancy vending machine.

So like replicators, then. Because that's what they are. You make you selection and voilà there it is.