Spoilers Tech issue with 1x06

[Tuskin38]

They're literally called food synthesizers, in dialogue, in TOS.

No they're not, they're called food slots.

Enterprise had protein re-sequencers though (not synthesizers like I said before, oops)

Enterprise also had a chef. The Re-sequencers were probably for quick meals, small things.

Though Archer said it could make a chicken sandwich (but he could have been lying to the Andorians)

 

[Nerys Myk]

Except the TAS "rec room" is a little awkward next to TNG where everyone is amazed at the holodeck technology... which DSC (and TAS) wants us to believe is an entire century old.

As I said before, they're deliberately changing anything they want, so why are we pretending otherwise? It's a reboot. And that's okay.

Or they're ignoring what was said in TNG,

 

[Tuskin38]

It's a reboot.

Except it isn't.

 

[marsh8472]

They fall on the plate perfectly arranged as if some chef plated them at a restaurant?

Or they have a system that carefully lowers the stuff, mechanical arms, or tractor beam technology.

From "By Any Other Name"
ROJAN: You humans are troublesome for us. We needed you to get us through the barrier. But there aren't enough of us to efficiently guard all of you of the time. Further, the food synthesisers cannot manufacture enough food for the entire journey. We are therefore neutralising all nonessential personnel.

More proof that they don't use replicators. Harry's statement combined with no positive proof that they possess replication technology.

 

[zar]

No they're not, they're called food slots.

Nope, actually they're only ever called "slots" in non-canon sources. They were literally called food synthesizers in TOS. Once, they were called "food processors". But never "slots".

 

[Kor]

They are literally slots that dispense food. There's nothing wrong with calling them that.

Kor

 

[Crazyewok]

Not TNG-style forcefields you could summon anywhere as seen in DSC, or atmospheric forcefields as seen in DSC's shuttlebay. And TAS was 14 years after DSC.

We have prototypes for atmospheric forcefields now, the drawback is simply energy . Useing magnetic fields to contain air would be piss easy in a world you can travel by warp.

 

[zar]

Or they have a system that carefully lowers the stuff, mechanical arms, or tractor beam technology.

From "By Any Other Name"
ROJAN: You humans are troublesome for us. We needed you to get us through the barrier. But there aren't enough of us to efficiently guard all of you of the time. Further, the food synthesisers cannot manufacture enough food for the entire journey. We are therefore neutralising all nonessential personnel.

More proof that they don't use replicators. Harry's statement combined with no positive proof that they possess replication technology.

On the contrary, the words "synthesizer" and "manufacture" suggest that they are much more than a vending machine.

 

[urbandefault]

"Canon violation."

CBS should be issued a citation. Let me know if they show up in court.

 

[Tuskin38]

They were literally called food synthesizers in TOS. Once, they were called "food processors". But never "slots".

Ah I was thinking of TNG, Beverly calls a replicator that in one episode.

 

[zar]

Ah I was thinking of TNG, Beverly calls a replicator that.

But I can't find a reference to 'Food synthesizer' in in the TOS transcripts.

The only time the word 'synthesizer' comes up in Star Trek is in an episode of DS9.

Looks like the transcripts use the spelling "synthesiser".

 

[Tuskin38]

Looks like the transcripts use the spelling "synthesiser".

Damn you beat me.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Or they have a system that carefully lowers the stuff, mechanical arms, or tractor beam technology.

From "By Any Other Name"
ROJAN: You humans are troublesome for us. We needed you to get us through the barrier. But there aren't enough of us to efficiently guard all of you of the time. Further, the food synthesisers cannot manufacture enough food for the entire journey. We are therefore neutralising all nonessential personnel.

More proof that they don't use replicators. Harry's statement combined with no positive proof that they possess replication technology.

What does that prove other than they don't have the raw material to make enough food for a journey that takes centuries.
Even in Voyager they instituted replicator rationing.

 

[Tuskin38]

Or they have a system that carefully lowers the stuff, mechanical arms, or tractor beam technology.

From "By Any Other Name"
ROJAN: You humans are troublesome for us. We needed you to get us through the barrier. But there aren't enough of us to efficiently guard all of you of the time. Further, the food synthesisers cannot manufacture enough food for the entire journey. We are therefore neutralising all nonessential personnel.

More proof that they don't use replicators. Harry's statement combined with no positive proof that they possess replication technology.

You just don't want to be wrong, do you?

They had replicator rationing in Voyager.

 

[BillJ]

It's not my job to explain how they do it without replication technology. The burden of proof is on you to prove that they can.

How exactly would they create a Nazi uniform and get McCoy into it, in roughly three minutes? See: "Patterns of Force"

There are no replicators of the kind TNG uses. Matter synthesizers, yes. This fits with TOS canon.

What is the difference?

 

[BillJ]

It is just another reason they should've rebooted if they wanted to play in the 23rd century. TOS wasn't sure what some of its own technology was on a week to week basis.

 

[marsh8472]

What does that prove other than they don't have the raw material to make enough food for a journey that takes centuries.
Even in Voyager they instituted replicator rationing.

If they had replicator technology it would be a question of power not material.

Here's more for you to explain away from "The Conscience of the King":

Captain's log, star date 2817.6. Starship Enterprise diverted from scheduled course. Purpose, to confirm discover by Doctor Thomas Leighton of an extraordinary new synthetic food which would totally end the threat of famine on Cygnia Minor, a nearby Earth colony.
...
MCCOY: I appreciate whatever concern you may have for the ship's company, Mister Spock,
SPOCK: I will continue, Doctor. According to our library banks, it started on the Earth colony of Tarsus Four, when the food supply was attacked by an exotic fungus and largely destroyed. There were over eight thousand colonists and virtually no food. And that was when Governor Kodos seized full power and declared emergency martial law.
MCCOY: I've heard of it.
SPOCK: You may not have heard it all. Kodos began to separate the colonists. Some would live, be rationed whatever food was left. The remainder would be immediately put to death. Apparently he had his own theories of eugenics.

Why did the enterprise go out of their way for something they're supposed to already have (replication technology)? and something they're not supposed to have (famines)?

 

[BillJ]

Why did the enterprise go out of their way for something they're supposed to already have (replication technology)? and something they're not supposed to have (famines)?

Synthetic food doesn't mean it was replicated. Synthetic means "not natural". It could be anything up to cold stuffs that remain good for decades in desert heat. Which means it wouldn't need power to be used, like replication and synthesizer technology would.

 

[urbandefault]

If the amount of bitching about Discovery is any indication, CBS has a winner on its hands.

 

[WarpFactorZ]

If they had replicator technology it would be a question of power not material.

No, it's a question of available energy -- which is mass, i.e. "material". The voyage was going to take, what, 500 years? 1000 years? They knew they couldn't do it and devote enough energy to feed everyone. Nuff said.