Taylor Sheridan Leaving Paramount For NBC

[Owain Taggart]

I liked 1883 and Landman. I'd previously watched the first season of Mayor of Kingstown. It wasn't like this. It was more of an Oz-style prison drama, which I'd never seen but knew was a gritty show.

I liked 1883 more than Yellowstone itself. The problem I've had with Yellowstone is that there was just so much angst. 1883 was more straightforward and a better narrative, maybe because it actually had an end it had to deal with. 1923 on the other hand felt way more like Yellowstone, in that it seemed more like an attempt to view that era through a modern lens, and seemed intent to rack up the violence. I feel that knowing there was violence during these periods does not give them an excuse to be so blunt about it. There used to be a time when all of this would be implied rather than shown, and I feel that often led to better writing.

 

[Mudd]

I'm watching 1883 and Landman, and my God, they're written with an extremely Republican mindset. Maybe it's because they're set in the American West, specifically Texas.

Texas and Montana.

Yeah, much of the west is pretty conservative and individualistic in culture, at least until you get to the Rockies. For the most part I'm glad it remains so. The last thing we need is 330 million people marching to the same drumbeat.

 

[camdudetenger2018]

he is one of the most controversial dudes in hollywood history

 

[bdub76]

I consider most of his work modern day westerns. I enjoy more of them than I dislike. And there is definitely a demand for more conservative content. That's like half the voting population. No good business reason to deny them content. And I do enjoy a good western too.

I can see him wanting to avoid LA. John Hughes also tried to avoid LA as much as possible.

 

[oktay]

I've watched a few of this guy's shows so far. I don't understand why people say he's a terrible writer; I think his shows are great. Then, when I asked Google's AI why he's controversial, I understood. He's from Texas, so he grew up with that culture. And judging by his writing style, there seems to be a problem with the female perspective.

I wouldn't be surprised if actors who worked with her before later spoke negatively about Taylor, but given the magnitude of the names she's worked with, I don't think they'll bring this up. But Taylor is probably on the same wavelength as the male characters in Landman.

 

[Owain Taggart]

I consider most of his work modern day westerns.

I dunno if I'd really consider them westerns. There's nothing really that stands out to make them westerns other than the setting. Something like Heartland on the other hand...

. And judging by his writing style, there seems to be a problem with the female perspective.

Tell me about it. I thought the character of Beth was given an awful characterization. I don't know if that improved by the followup series, but in Yellowstone they kept making her repeat the same mistakes and I didn't feel she had real growth in her character.

 

[oktay]

Tell me about it. I thought the character of Beth was given an awful characterization. I don't know if that improved by the followup series, but in Yellowstone they kept making her repeat the same mistakes and I didn't feel she had real growth in her character.

In the TV series Landman, the main character's daughter was presented as a sexual object in the first season. Now I'm watching the second season. The female character, who was a powerful lawyer in the first season, immediately gets a male lover in the second season. Also, in the first season, a female character who had recently given birth and whose husband had died was forced to date the main character's son. And from what I've read, in the show called 1923, the female character named Alex experiences everything imaginable, including rape, in the second season.

 

[oktay]

My guess is NBC is looking towards the end of the Dick Wolfe era and want to build up a staple of shows to replace the L&O and Chicago franchise.

I don't think Taylor Sheridan will make a national channel series in the style of Law & Order. Because some time ago, Comcast planned to spin off NBC and other channels into an independent company, leaving only Peacock. Frankly, considering the names involved in his shows, I'm curious how Peacock will react to the budgets of new series. After all, the high budget of Ted's show almost led to its cancellation in its first season. Of course, Taylor might stop producing new shows altogether once Paramount leaves.

 

[Starkers]

I think it's slightly simplistic to say Sheridan is a Republican. Clearly he leans right in many areas, but there's definitely a Libertarian angle to his work, he can be very anti authoritarian, embraces some environmental issues and, whilst not perfect, has done a lot to highlight the issues facing Native American communities.

Don't get me wrong, as someone who identifies slightly left of centre I know we'd disagree about a great many things, but I still enjoy his work (though I do believe he's begun to believe his own hype, and he's clearly still got a chip on his shoulder from his time as a stuntman and jobbing actor)

I still haven't watched 1823 or 1923 though, but I did enjoy Yellowstone, Wind River is a great film and his scripts for Sicario and Hell or High Water are superb.

 

[Owain Taggart]

In the TV series Landman, the main character's daughter was presented as a sexual object in the first season. Now I'm watching the second season. The female character, who was a powerful lawyer in the first season, immediately gets a male lover in the second season. Also, in the first season, a female character who had recently given birth and whose husband had died was forced to date the main character's son. And from what I've read, in the show called 1923, the female character named Alex experiences everything imaginable, including rape, in the second season.

Yeah, that's kind of what I'm talking about. I only got to see the 1923's first season, but it was brutal. And Helen Mirren I found was kind of wasted in her role. Of course, it didn't help that 1923 pretty much was the same storyline as Yellowstone. So while I didn't see the second season, I get the gist of the direction it was heading in. I think there is a time and place to show things, but I also feel like we've been getting more and more desensitized into showing more and more brutal stuff when implying things can be just as powerful, if not more due to things being left to the imagination. While I've enjoyed some of Yellowstone, I feel there are times when it went way overboard and leaned into finding excuses for getting into altercations, and there comes a point where I can only take so much of that stuff. There comes a point where it's just not enjoyable.