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Swearing in Star Trek - Steve Shives

It makes me wonder how people manage to have second and third children...
It's why second children tend to be so close in age to their older sibling, the parents know their child can't walk in on them having sex when they're sleeping in a crib.

Third children tend to be conceived while the parents are on vacation away from the other two kids.
 
I hate to say it but as a supervillain you suck :devil:

I know. I mean, wanting to wipe out the human race, but doesn't want to actually... you know, hurt anybody? Kind of a contradiction in terms, isn't it?

It's why second children tend to be so close in age to their older sibling, the parents know their child can't walk in on them having sex when they're sleeping in a crib.

No, but they might wake up in said crib and start screaming their head off, making it very difficult to sustain... ah, the mood.
 
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It's almost enough to make you doubt Darwin's "survival of the fittest" theory, isn't it?

The "fittest" doesn't necessarily mean someone who's fit or in top shape or of great intelligence. It means someone who's more likely to survive under a set of conditions. "Intelligence" for example can be useless and even a burden. If your survival depends on repeating the same mindless tasks without fatigue or hesitation then the more intelligence you have to more you'll suffer and the less motivated you'll be to have descendants.
 
Hmmm... maybe that's the point the writers of "Threshold" were trying to make... the nature of our lifestyle and society is such that we're actually de-evolving into clueless salamander-like creatures.

Who would have thought that the worst episode of Trek ever would hide such a clever message?
 
Humans may not be that different, but language sure will be. This was written 380 years ago:

For this, since its depra∣vation in Adam, perceiving it felfe altogether emptied of any good, doth now catch after every new thing, conceiving that possibly it may finde satisfaction among some of its fellow creatures. But our ene∣mie the devill (who strives still to pervert our gifts, and beat us with our owne weapons) hath so contriv'd it, that any truth doth now seeme distastefull for that very reason, for which errour is entertain'd.. No∣velty. For let but some upstart here∣sie be set abroach, and presently there are some out of a curious hu∣mour; others, as if they watched an occasion of singularity, will take it up for canonicall, and make it part of their creede and profession;
And yet, I can read that just fine. Or is that because I was an English major? :biggrin:
 
And yet, I can read that just fine. Or is that because I was an English major?
No, it's not because you were an English major. It's because 380 years are but an eyeblink in the evolution of language.

The King James Bible, and all of Shakespeare's plays, were written over 400 years ago, and they're still Modern English. Archaic Modern English, but still Modern English.

I was never an English major, and yet I managed (with the help of Cliff's Notes) to get through The Canterbury Tales (around 600 years old) in the original Middle English. But there's no way in Hell I'm going to understand Beowulf (over 1000 years old) in the original Old English.

Everyday society during the Trump years and COVID makes Darwin weep. :lol:
Depends on how one defines "fittest." One could define it as "the most ruthlessly greedy." Just as the assertion that Nazi Germany was "the most efficient state Earth ever knew" could be valid, depending on what you're saying it was efficent at.
 
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Wheee! I got caught up!

As for the Shakespeare thing, fair enough. Honestly, that wasn't directed at you personally but at a general attitude, which often surfaces whenever this issue comes up, that somehow swearing isn't classy or highbrow enough for STAR TREK's optimistic future, as though social progress is somehow synonymous with more "refined" tastes and manners, which always kinda strikes me as vaguely elitist. (Again, not directed at you personally.)

I am always amused that most people have bought into the "Shakespearian language is highbrow" thing. There were always "curse words", nasty insults, and scatalogical jokes "for the groundlings". :)

I went to see the Watchmen movie in theatres back when it released, which was rated R btw, and there was someone there with what sounded like 4-5 year old kids. I couldn't see them, they were behind me, but they sounded that young.

Either they didn't care, didn't see the movie rating, or thought it was family friendly because it was a superhero movie, without actually looking up what it was.

Or something else, who knows.

Sometimes people just don't pay attention or don't care. When I saw Jurassic Park in the the theater, there were big signs saying "NOT A KIDS MOVIE" all over and some people still had 2-6 year olds. :brickwall:

No, it's not because you were an English major. It's because 380 years are but an eyeblink in the evolution of language.

The King James Bible, and all of Shakespeare's plays, were written over 400 years ago, and they're still Modern English. Archaic Modern English, but still Modern English.

I was never an English major, and yet I managed (with the help of Cliff's Notes) to get through The Canterbury Tales (around 600 years old) in the original Middle English. But there's no way in Hell I'm going to understand Beowulf (over 1000 years old) in the original Old English.

That was meant as a joke. :) I have managed to get through The Canterbury Tales (VERY funny! and VERY rude!), but yes, Beowulf is sort of proto-English.

Depends on how one defines "fittest." One could define it as "the most ruthlessly greedy." Just as the assertion that Nazi Germany was "the most efficient state Earth ever knew" could be valid, depending on what you're saying it was efficent at.

Poor Darwin! He really was trying to say "best adapted to its circumstances" or something like that and then all sorts of people had to come up with their stupid ideas of what "fittest" meant.
 
Sometimes people just don't pay attention or don't care. When I saw Jurassic Park in the the theater, there were big signs saying "NOT A KIDS MOVIE" all over and some people still had 2-6 year olds. :brickwall:

If it helps, they probably paid for their decision for months when their kids had dinosaur nightmares and woke up screaming...
 
Sometimes people just don't pay attention or don't care. When I saw Jurassic Park in the the theater, there were big signs saying "NOT A KIDS MOVIE" all over and some people still had 2-6 year olds.
My cousin used to be the assistant manager at a theatre. One of the things that annoyed her was how often people would complain about "this movie is not appropriate for children, why wasn't I warned ahead of time?" Eventually she just started telling them "it's rated R, why were you even bringing children to begin with?"
 
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