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SW blu-rays have changes to the films again

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WTF, this article implies that "noooo" booshwah is for real. I figured it had to be a joke - right?

Nice way to wreck yet another scene, George.

There's nothing there that lends any more credence that these changes are 'real' than what's already been posted. I was afraid it had somebody from LFL commenting or something. There's still a chance!
 
WTF, this article implies that "noooo" booshwah is for real. I figured it had to be a joke - right?

Nice way to wreck yet another scene, George.

There's nothing there that lends any more credence that these changes are 'real' than what's already been posted. I was afraid it had somebody from LFL commenting or something. There's still a chance!

Though, one has to wonder, if these changes AREN'T real, why doesn't LucasFilm just say so?

Probably won't matter either way, it's still going to sell well.
 
If people want to hear Vader yell NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO during that scene they can already just use http://nooooooooooooooo.com/ while watching. It's like getting these awesome revised editions that match George Lucas's vision FOR FREE!!!1!
 
To be honest, I can kind of understand what Lucas was thinking with the "NOOOO", because after following the long, intertwined journeys of Anakin and Palpatine all through the prequels, you kind of expect more from their final scene than just Vader worldlessly throwing him into a pit.

But that's only if you WANT to make the movie fit in with the prequels. And I sure as hell don't.

Lucas is probably thinking how it's poetic, as the end of Revenge of the Sith, Vader screams NOOOOO, so at the end of Return of the Jedi, he should scream NOOOO.

It's never bothered me that Vader never said anything when he chucked Palps into the pit. What needs to be said? We SEE that Vader doesn't like what he's doing...

I hadn't planned on buying them anyway...

Personally, I find this addition helpful as I never understood before that, in this scene, Darth Vader is throwing the Emperor down the pit because he doesn't like what the Emperor is doing to his son. It was very ambiguous in all previous versions. Now it's clear what his motivations are.

Thanks, George! :techman:

I also hope there are further story clarifications down the line, like an internal monologue in A New Hope when Ben is telling Luke about how his father died. When he looks away all shifty eyed, it's a perfect time to insert a voice over of Ewen McGregor saying "from a certain point of view, sucker." If the actor doesn't want to come back to do the work, Lucas can always edit together previously unreleased dialogue recording during the prequels into the needed sentence.
 
Problem is the "Noooooo...." scream even when it was used in Ep3 was over used, trite and mocked. It's use, and performance, in Ep3 was just terrible. How anyone could see the few years of reaction to that and knowing that the phrase itself is trite would decide to go back and add it to a 20-some year old movie is just...

Insane.

And I think this shows it. George Lucas is insane with no connection to reality. He may very well be a clinical sociopath.
 
It kind of makes sense, this change. After watching Anakin and Palpatine's story throughout the prequel trilogy, it would be strange for Vader to just wordlessly chuck Palps in a bottomless pit (there does seem to be a proliferation of bottomless pits in SW). If you want the six films to match up thematically with each other, this is a positive change.I have never sat down and done a marathon Episodes I-VI rewatch, despite already owning all six films on DVD. I look forward to finally giving it a shot on Blu Ray. I do wonder though, if a first time viewer who watches in chronological (rather than production) order will bother watching past Episode I?
 
To me, the biggest problem is that the entire Falcon lightsaber training scene hasn't been fixed, only a few shots of it. What in the world is the point of fixing a snippet of a totally crappy scene and leaving the rest totally crappy? What is wrong with these people?

For a while yesterday and earlier today I was sure this was all an elaborate hoax, now I'm totally dissapointed.
 
It kind of makes sense, this change. After watching Anakin and Palpatine's story throughout the prequel trilogy, it would be strange for Vader to just wordlessly chuck Palps in a bottomless pit (there does seem to be a proliferation of bottomless pits in SW). If you want the six films to match up thematically with each other, this is a positive change.I have never sat down and done a marathon Episodes I-VI rewatch, despite already owning all six films on DVD. I look forward to finally giving it a shot on Blu Ray. I do wonder though, if a first time viewer who watches in chronological (rather than production) order will bother watching past Episode I?

Don't get me, or anyone, started on how watching the PT first neuters the "drama" of the OT.

As for the "Noooo." It's one of those cases where saying nothing at all is more powerful than saying something. That's one of the reasons Luke's Wilhelm scream as he dives off of the catwalk inside Cloud City was so derided. It took a moment where Luck selected to die over accepting his "father's" request to join him in conquering the galaxy. Instead of just taking it like a man and diving into the unknown he screams "Nooooooo" either suggesting he was answering his father's request or simply unsatisfied with the result that jumping off of a semi-secure position over large opening lead to a great fall.

So now instead of Vader "putting it all together" in his head and electing to take down the man who has taken so much of him and silently chucking him into a similar unknown we have him demonstrating this dissatisfaction with a "Noooo!" It runs the power, drama, and visual of that moment.

Think of it as being like in a drama movie where the "hero" has to kill his best friend or the woman he loves in order to stop the bad guy, or when because the bad guy ended up being that person he trusted/loved. What's more powerful? The hero showing some sense of emotion over his choice (something Vader's actor is able to do in spite of not seeing his face) and silently killing his friend/lover and then walking away or the hero shouting "Nooooo!!!!!" and then shooting that person?

Emotions and actions can carry a lot further than words can and "Nooooooo!" is very over-used in film as it is.

Shit, I'm sort of surprised Lucas isn't going to insert a montage/memory flash back of Darth Vader recalling everything that has happened between him and The Emperor and "putting all of the pieces together" to see everything that has really happened over the last couple decades.

"Nooooooo" takes a lot of the power and drama out of the moment and reduces it to something much less with something very, very played and trite. "Noooooo" in any context just doesn't work anymore. And it's also pointless, needless, addition to a movie that's worked fine without it for almost 30 freaking years. Why add it now?!
 
When you think about the buisness mind of Lucas as opposed to the creative side, releasing the original trilogy as they originally appeared in the cinema in 1977-1983 would make sense; people would buy them.

Well, on the bright side, Lucas isn't immortal. He's going to eventually pass to the great canteen in the sky, and when he does whoever ends up with control of SW will probably have no emotional stake in seeing the originals released and thus will do so.

I don't think I'm the only one who has become extremely jaded after the special editions, the prequels, constant edits and "enhancements", and the constant fights and flame wars among the fanbase to the point where I honestly do not care for Star Wars one iota. Lucas could release the originals in super high-def 15532p resolution 3d where the characters literally pop out of the screen and slap the viewer around a bit, and I wouldn't buy it.

That's how I feel. Ten years ago, I would have been jumping at the new Star Wars MMORPG, now I'm actively avoiding it.
 
Brand New Interview with Movie Entertainment Now reporter Peter Kats and George Lucas on August 31, 2011

Peter Kats: So we heard about the new Obi Wan scream and the blinking Ewoks, why did you make Darth Vader say, "no" twice in the final scene in Return of the Jedi?

George Lucas: First, the audio was always there. The sound of Palpatine's lightning bolts always drowned out the "no" spoken by Vader. In 2009, when we started working on the blu-rays, we were at a time with THX audio mixing equipment to pull out the lost dialogue from Vader. So, now we can finally hear Vader.

Peter Kats: Eventhough the blu-rays have not been released, there is quite a bunch of negative feedback floating around the net regarding the Vader "No" dialogue added to RTJ. Why do you think you needed to add the "No" back into the movie since that scene was so powerful anyway?

George Lucas: It's always more emotional to have a character say "No" after seeing or hearing something very traumatic or stressful. For example, the other night, I was really craving something sweet. I went into the freezer and I saw a pint of Carvel ice cream laying on the bottom shelf. But once I opened up the lid, I saw that there was about one spoonful of Rocky Road [the flavor]. I was so disappointed that there wasn't at least one serving of ice cream left, I literally screamed "no" out loud! I'm surprised I didn't wake up anyone. So if you can imagine someone getting really upset that there actually isn't any ice cream left in the freezer, can you imagine how a father would react to see his son be electrocuted by Darth Sidious? He would obviously say "no."
 
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