Spoilers Supernatural Season 15--the final season

[tnpir4002]

In a finale that was rife with mistakes, the writers did get one thing incredibly right: the last conversation with Bobby. It gave us the answer as to what happened to him after "Inside Man," and it also told us that Jack brought Cas back from The Empty. This also brings good closure to the Heaven storyline; I take that to mean all the dead angels are back and Heaven is no longer in danger of collapsing. (And I also choose to make that mean the angels at long last have their wings back!)

It would've been great to get one last cameo from Misha Collins, and maybe even see Jack and Gabriel on that bridge at the end too, and get a bit of a "family photo," as it were, but I can live with what we did get. The part about Sam growing old and dying was very well-made too--that moment when he got into the Impala and it felt like he hadn't sat there for ages, remembering the brother that he lost so long ago and all the good times. That was a legit tear-jerker. And...Ellen & Jo's Road House!!!

And, above all...at first I was disappointed that we didn't hear "Carry On My Wayward Son" at the start like we normally do, but then when we heard it in Heaven, it was so epic and so wonderfully fitting...and then Dean said he loved the song.

 

[auntiehill]

One touch I really liked was that Dean's "Baby" in Heaven had the original KAZ 2Y5 and Sam was sitting the present Impala, with the newer plate CNK 80Q3.

 

[thribs]

They forgot to have Sam kill Jensen’s wife. Must be for a movie.

 

[Kamen Rider Blade]

Overall, I'm happy with the ending.

 

[thribs]

One touch I really liked was that Dean's "Baby" in Heaven had the original KAZ 2Y5 and Sam was sitting the present Impala, with the newer plate CNK 80Q3.

They are also wearing the same clothes they wore in the pilot

 

[SAndrews10]

An ok ending. I prefer to think of them at the end of the previous episode. Open road ahead of them, with nothing holding them back anymore and simply on the open road in the Impala.

 

[Aragorn]

If this show had been on another network, they would've been able to afford to bring back everyone who's still alive for Dean's funeral, and then some of who's dead for heaven, like an angel who's been in over 100 episodes, for example.

The ending was fine, but nothing special. Didn't like how Dean died. Was some Trip Tucker crap there. That could've been done much better.

 

[Deledrius]

Not a great sign when I spend most of the episode thinking "surely this is a fake-out, they wouldn't do something this stupid for real". It robs the episode of the intended emotional beats. They really dumped on the entire point of the show and especially the previous episode with this one.

If this show had been on another network, they would've been able to afford to bring back everyone who's still alive for Dean's funeral, and then some of who's dead for heaven, like an angel who's been in over 100 episodes, for example.

The ending was fine, but nothing special. Didn't like how Dean died. Was some Trip Tucker crap there. That could've been done much better.

The comparison with Enterprise is incredibly apt. They even promised that this would be essentially a fan-targeted finale, so clearly they're on the same hallucinogens Berman was. I'm not sure just having more people would have fixed the structural or thematic problems, but at least the emotional parts may have worked better.

This was a total anti-climax, and it fell entirely flat.

Personally, given this alternative, an open-ended finale after one last mission would have been a lot more satisfying. I don't need to see how they die. I really don't. It's not closure, it's just depressing.

 

[SAndrews10]

That’s funny I thought about Trip’s death and the “valentine to the fans” while watching it last night.

 

[Deledrius]

That’s funny I thought about Trip’s death and the “valentine to the fans” while watching it last night.

Apparently it's a very close comparison. After Jensen Ackles read the script he had the reasonable reaction that it was terrible, and had to be convinced by Eric Kripke to "look at it from the fan perspective" because he was "too close" to see how much sense it made. ( Source: https://twitter.com/soberdenatural/status/1329635507647627265 )

And worse, Dabb even admitted last year that they knew a large number (in his estimate, a majority) of fans would be displeased.

[...] showrunner Andrew Dabb provided a sober assessment of how likely the finale is to provide a satisfactory conclusion for fans. “I’ve been on the show for 12 years,” he said. “The things we have in mind, about 30 percent of people will be really happy.”
“So seven out of 10 people are going to be pissed off!” Padalecki exclaimed.
“If you thought Game of Thrones was bad, just wait,” Dabb replied.

( Source: https://twitter.com/vulture/status/1153099645662433280 )

And that was before CoViD meant they had to dial back whatever they were planning.

 

[Kelthaz]

Personally, given this alternative, an open-ended finale after one last mission would have been a lot more satisfying. I don't need to see how they die. I really don't. It's not closure, it's just depressing.

That really is what bothers me the most. This wasn't a bad episode, but it was such a needlessly cruel ending. In the last few episodes we saw how desperate Dean was to escape from Chuck and live his life on his own terms. In the previous episode, we get a bittersweet ending where the brothers are finally free from their strings after a hard-fought struggle, but they lose Cas and Jack in the process. However, the characters are hopeful and drive off into the sunset. The very next episode, the knife is twisted and Dean is killed before he has a chance to enjoy his newfound freedom. Sam does move on and gets a happy apple pie life, but after all the trauma and loss he's suffered even that is bittersweet. Even Older Sam breaks down when sitting in the Impala while reflecting on everything he's lost. I've seen plenty of sad endings in my time and this was easily the cruelest I've ever seen. And no, the characters ending up in fluffy cloud heaven does not make it a happy ending.

If the writers really wanted to go this road, then a better approach would have been to end the series with the previous episode. Then in two or three years do a Supernatural TV movie that is basically this episode. That way Sam and Dean would have had a couple of happy years together and we would have had more time to flesh out the ending without covid restrictions preventing the extended Winchester family from being in the show. It wouldn't have been perfect and it wouldn't have been my choice, but it wouldn't have so relentlessly bleak.

 

[thribs]

Yeah. Killing them in a HBO Max movie would have made more sense.

 

[Samurai8472]

I'm surprised they haven't done any type of special 2 hour movie over the past 15 years. You would think there would be one. Maybe save that and do it five years later

*New Demon pops up*

Dean- We have some unfinished business........

 

[Farscape One]

I'm surprised they haven't done any type of special 2 hour movie over the past 15 years. You would think there would be one. Maybe save that and do it five years later

*New Demon pops up*

Dean- We have some unfinished business........

Given the boys, one or both, have been in virtually every scene in every episode of the show, I'm not surprised at all. The only time they could logistically do it would be in between seasons, which is only maybe 2 months, and the guys do need a break.

 

[Red Shirt]

I found the finale anticlimactic and disappointing.

 

[Avalon]

Welp, I fell asleep early last night and missed the whole series finale.

I did manage to see last week's season finale. From what I'm hearing...I'm just going to leave it at that.

 

[Ethros]

Could they not got the Eileen actress back I take it to play Sam's wife? In fact was it even really explained if people like her and other-Bobby, other-Charlie etc came back to life or not after Chuck wiped them away?

And yeah I just felt sad for those two poor kids at the beginning! I thought maybe there was gonna be some set up that they'd become future hunters or something, a future generation Sam & Dean perhaps.

Did Sam keep up the hunting life, as his son had the tattoo I'd guess so. In my head canon that was Eileen and they on and off hunted as time went on and a few crazy adventures along the way. Although saying that why the f would he leave the Impala in a garage for years and not pass it on to his kid? You know, the one he named Dean!

I liked them in heaven.. but yeah as others have said I'd probably have preferred them to jus drive off into the sunset still hunting, ready to kick some ass. Ah well.
I'm kind of satisfied and unsatisfied at the same time.

I started watching the show in 2010 and binge watched the first 5 seasons, it's crazy to think it's finally over.

 

[Aragorn]

Could they not got the Eileen actress back I take it to play Sam's wife?

They couldn't even afford Castiel and Jack for the finale and they were regulars!

 

[Enterprise is Great]

I don’t know if the Jesus Christ reference was intentional or not but Dean died while nailed to a piece of wood. It wasn’t a cross but it was still wood.

 

[DS9Continuing]

I don't have the problem all of you seem to have with this, I thought it was fine. It got the waterworks threatening.

Bear in mind whatever the writers did, bitches were gonna bitch because that's what bitches do. They were never going to please everybody so they just had to do what they thought was right.

This is how the boys always expected or wanted to go out – Dean to die fighting, and Sam to live a normal life. They've both said a dozen times over that that's what they always thought would happen.

That it was a basic-level MOTW case that finally killed Dean seems appropriate to me. With no God to pull their strings and write their stories, there likely were only MOTW cases left to handle anyway, instead of big multiversal crises. But either way, I like the idea of after everything they've done, it was an errant nail in a barn that did him in. (It reminds me of the 10th Doctor dying not thanks to getting caught in a fight to the death between the Master and Rassilon, but thanks to rescuing an old man from a cupboard.)

We don't know how long this episode begins after the end of the last, but it wasn't immediate – they had time to adopt a dog and fall into a routine and get bored. And Dean got to experience one of his greatest life's goals, Pie Fest. I think he went to his death happy with his lot, and this new Heaven is not like the old Heaven – Jack and Castiel fixed it so that now you get to do whatever you want the most. Apparently what Dean wanted to do most was just to drive and drive and drive, and that's what he got to do. He had no regrets.

Sam was freed from the need to keep hunting. He couldn't keep doing it without Dean anyway, and when he went out to handle that one last call, he switched off the lights in the Bunker with great finality. (By the way, the fact that the call had been suggested by Donna establishes that she did come back to life at the end of last episode, which implies everyone else did too, including alt-Charlie, alt-Bobby and Eileen.)

I don't take his son having the tattoo as proof they kept hunting – that was just a safety net. The family didn't live in the Bunker, the Impala was stored away clearly not been driven for years, and Sam was helping his son play ball and do his homework. There was no hunting in that life – exactly as Sam always wanted, just like Dean specifically referenced earlier in the ep. Sad that he had to do it without Dean, but he had had to leave Dean before to get his normal life anyway, so not unexpected.

Presumably Sam passed on the basic-level cases that remained to some of the other hunters they know. Maybe they even gave the Bunker to the Wayward Sisters to keep running. That could be the reunion movie.

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