Spoilers Supernatural season 14

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  1. auntiehill

    auntiehill The Blueness Premium Member

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    Sorry for the double post, but this news just dropped:
    'Supernatural' Renewed for Season 15 by The CW

    This makes me VERY happy. Maybe this will give them time to really wrap up all the storylines and bring a big, grand-finale ending to the show.
     
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    New Bobby is a pale imitation. Killing Charlie also a horrendous mistake. Again, New Charlie isn't a patch on the original.
     
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  3. Snick27

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    So will season 15 be the last? How will it all end? Will Dean be in charge of Hell and Sam in charge of Heaven or vice Versa? Or Sam and Dean the new type of powerful angels that guard over earth? Or will this show go on and on and Sam and Dean will be chasing ghost in wheelchairs an walkers?
     
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    Next weeks episode looks interesting.
     
  5. tnpir4002

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    Tonight's show was a misfire, plain and simple. I can see exactly what they were going for, but they fell short on everything they were trying to do. Just like things in the past that were teased as so monumental, and then fell flat...that's what we got tonight.

    1. The random almost-prophet: ummm...okay? That plotline barely made sense to me, and there wasn't much effort made to explain it.
    2. Donatello: well, good to have him back, but...couple of issues. If Cas could heal him as easily as he seemed to tonight, why didn't he just do it in the same show as he hurt him? Second, the photos of Cas as a doctor struck me as maybe a vision or shared illusion or something, a way to help put Donatello back together (think the season 6 finale, or the episode with all the Looney Toons tropes in season 8). This episode had none of what made those such charming outings.
    3. I'm with Cas...working a case when there's such horrendous doom and gloom on the horizon? Really? They could just as easily have has Cas smite Donatello or done him in the old-fashioned way, but instead they "put him back together" without any real narrative payoff. I get that they want to save people and such, but as soon as he has one exchange about junk food, he's offscreen the rest of the episode.
    4. Also, while I'm on the subject...are they expecting us to believe that Cas absorbed all the demon-tablet power and was completely unharmed, which is how Donatello is suddenly back to his old (soulless) self?
    5. Nick's plotline was wasted here. There was such potential in bringing back his dead wife (even if played by a completely different actress) and letting them talk face to face. There was such potential in him helping her move on. Instead we got yet another "I'm not Lucifer" tease that led absolutely nowhere.

    Literally the only thing I felt worked was "let's go home," and the conversation around it.

    I'm not terribly thrilled with season 14 so far...and I'm getting less and less thrilled with the proceedings as the episodes wear on. Surely I can't be the only one?
     
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    I liked the bits with Nick--very disturbing that he didn't care so much about his wife's ghost as he did about finding Lucifer.

    The parts with Donatello really didn't work that well-- felt rather rushed. It does start to look like Michael will end up in Nick. I guess we shall see.
     
  7. Kelthaz

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    Yeah, that episode was a bit weak, but I'm just happy to have Donatello back.
     
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    The bit with the doctor was unintentionally funny with how badly written it was.

    "Yeah, he opened his eyes and made some weird sounds, but other than that he's totally brain dead so you should definitely pull the plug on him."
     
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    This was a nice episode. I had forgotten that Donatello was still alive, so it was a pleasant surprise that Cass was able to save him. I felt bad for the impaired prophet whose life degenerated into murder and suicide through no fault of his own.

    But Donatello's surprising recovery helped turn the tide with Dean, who-- apparently-- has agreed to try all other options before consigning himself to the magic coffin with Michael. Sam's little drunken rant was pretty convincing, too. I'm not sure if the punch did any good. :D

    I don't know how it's all going to come together, but I think somehow we're going to get Angels back from the Big Empty to save Heaven and defeat Michael. Another idea that occurred to me is that Nick may end up hosting Michael, and be the one to get stuck in the magic coffin.

    I'm sure the CW will do that, but hopefully not next year. :D

    Interesting that you would say that. That was my theory in the first few seasons, before it became The Show That Will Not Die.
     
  10. auntiehill

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    It's the 300th episode and the long-awaited return of Jeffrey Dean Morgan. Of course, granted-wishes never end well on Supernatural, so a happy ending isn't likely, but still....nice enough to see the family reunion while it lasts.
     
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  11. tnpir4002

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    Okay...seeing Alt!Cas showing his (intact!) wings was AWESOME. Seeing Zachariah killed off so fast...again!...not so much. It was terrific having him back!!! WHY, SUPERNATURAL, WHY?!
     
  12. auntiehill

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    Holy crap, that was sad!! :wah:

    Seeing John & Mary cry made me tear up right away.

    A sad but rather touching episode .
     
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    Good episode but I was hoping for something that would make it feel relevant to the overall arc. Like their father telling them something that they didn’t know before, or something like that.
    Also, did they tell their Dad about Scoobynatural? I was waiting for that story. :)
     
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    The long awaited return of John Winchester exceeded my expectations, but it left me an emotional wreck. I spent most of the episode in tears. The plot was terrible and it didn't make any sense, but no one cares. The emotional beats were on point and the acting from our cast was phenomenal. I think I need to go lie down now.
     
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    I'm surprised that girl survived Dean's wrath to what she did. Didn't he say he would "murder them all" if someone did that? :)
     
  16. auntiehill

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    I wonder if we'll ever see those kids again? Seemed an awful lot of screen time was spent on them for what amounted to a small plot device.
     
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    The original idea for the 300th was to show what it was like to live at that town from the perspective from the locals. Might have just have been a left over from that idea.
     
  18. Farscape One

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    It would also explain the title of the episode.
     
  19. Terok Nor

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    :wah::wah::wah:

    I loved how they managed to have John remember what happened but still not know it actually happened.
     
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    There were so many tear jerkers from this episode it's not even funny. The crowning moment was the moment John realized Mary was behind him, and he could barely speak. All in all a VERY well-made episode, but the fact that it wound up essentially being a reset button plot kind of spoiled it for me.

    That said, seeing the action with Alt!Cas and Alt!Zachariah drove home just how badly angels have been nerfed since season 5/8. Seeing the two of them teleport in, seeing Cas show intact angel wings for the first time since Sacrifice (I'm not counting the archangels here), seeing Zachariah effortlessly use telekinesis, and seeing both of them in general be the powerful beings angels are supposed to be...I know its purpose was as a callback, but I want to see THOSE angels again. What we're left with today doesn't even compare. (Be honest: can you imagine Duma or any of the remaining angels we've seen doing any of that stuff today?)

    That scene also made me realize how much I miss Kurt Fuller in the role of Zachariah, and for that matter, seeing other angels besides Cas. I also miss the days when Heaven was mysterious and trippy, rather than what we have now...and if a soul had been found wandering around outside their space, they'd have been (as I saw it expressed once) "struck by lightning."
     
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