Well, for one, part of the reason people like TV shows is because they like the characters. When your lead actors spend too much time acting out-of-character, it can make the show less enjoyable.
I personally found Soulless Sam incredibly boring.
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I personally found Soulless Sam incredibly boring.
I agree. Soulless Sam was fun (and dangerous) in a way Dean'mon was not, in his failure to understand morality and feelings. Soulless Sam pretending to be human was like a dog walking on its hind legs - hopeless but cute! Also, him paying off that hooker was a nice callback for those who'd paid attention in previous seasons.
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We are slightly behind down here, but I am looking forward to the new episode tonight.
I didn't think soulless Sam was out of character. It was a different side of his character, and I personally thought Jared did a great job playing Sam like that.
Just because people like certain things about a story or a character, it doesn't mean that all we should ever get are cop-outs and reset buttons. That's my main gripe with Dean's current character arc, just like it's my main gripe with DS9's Sacrifice of Angels.
I used to say that the Prophets thing was a deus ex machina, but SF Debris is right: it's not. The show was building up their involvement, so it didn't come out of nowhere, but it was a cop-out imho. You could have had the Dominion win that bit of the war and still not throw overboard the things that audiences liked about the show's storylines and characters.
One of the greatest thing in scifi is the "what if" question, a sense of real danger, of not knowing what's going to come next for characters we love. The reset button takes all that excitement away, and it's cheap, lazy story-writing. Sam's soul-search actually had consequences that are palpable even now.
Dean being a demon for 3 episodes and then being magically cured...that's Sacrifice of Angels all over again, and I sure hope TPTB have a trick up their sleeve for compensating for that major letdown. I actually liked him better that way, even if he was kind of useless.
Just because people like certain things about a story or a character, it doesn't mean that all we should ever get are cop-outs and reset buttons. That's my main gripe with Dean's current character arc, just like it's my main gripe with DS9's Sacrifice of Angels.
I used to say that the Prophets thing was a deus ex machina, but SF Debris is right: it's not. The show was building up their involvement, so it didn't come out of nowhere, but it was a cop-out imho. You could have had the Dominion win that bit of the war and still not throw overboard the things that audiences liked about the show's storylines and characters.
One of the greatest thing in scifi is the "what if" question, a sense of real danger, of not knowing what's going to come next for characters we love. The reset button takes all that excitement away, and it's cheap, lazy story-writing. Sam's soul-search actually had consequences that are palpable even now.
Dean being a demon for 3 episodes and then being magically cured...that's Sacrifice of Angels all over again, and I sure hope TPTB have a trick up their sleeve for compensating for that major letdown. I actually liked him better that way, even if he was kind of useless.
Now that I've seen it, I agree. It's a real WTF move. Reminds me of the way ENT would wrap up its finale dilemmas in the next season opening. But various things are in play in this season, and as they pointed out Dean still has the mark, so maybe Dean'mon will reappear later (like Angelus!).
Best bit:
"It would take a lot more than you trying to kill me with a hammer for me to walk away."
"You realize how screwed up our lives are that that even makes sense?"
^Yeah, that was kind of a snooze, really.
Ugh, a sequel episode to an episode that bored me to death. At least it was somewhat better than the original episode.
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At this point, "monsters of the week" just don't cut it for the show.
Him still being a demon but in full control would be cool, but that's as likely as a monster who will just kill the Winchesters immediately instead of pushing them against walls over and over again.
That's how I felt. Just kind of boring filler, this time. I was hoping for better, as it was the episode closest to Halloween. Oh well. Maybe they're saving the better ones for the November ratings.
Same here.
Agree with others, pretty dull episode. I thought they might make a point about how this newbie were-girl has more balls than the Winchesters when it comes to doing what needs to be done after a sibling goes completely over to the supernatural dark side...but, nope.
It's not like they didn't have an opportunity to discuss it -- half of this week's episode was the brothers driving around in the dark, talking about, you know, stuff.
And a clip montage about the cuckolded husband and his soul-selling? A cool reveal last week, but totally unnecessary in this episode and borderline non sequitur to the main story.
I don't really like their take on a lot of monsters. Werewolves, vampires, leviathans... I think I'm just getting a little tired of the whole "every monster looks exactly like a human" thing. Even when they were running around Purgatory, the Leviathans still looked human! They should have looked like dinosaurs or something.
Maybe he'll reappear later as a demon.
Lester didn't go to hell. Dean broke the contract and killed him instead, so his soul went free.
I saw the werewolf episode last night. Wow, that was terrible. I think it's the worst episode I've seen of this show. A perfect storm of stupid story, awful writing, terrible guest acting, and mediocre directing. It makes the were-Garth episode look like a classic. I felt bad for the boys having to be in this thing. And I'm not usually given to such "worst ever" hyperbole.
Luckily it was followed by a pretty good Agents of Shield episode, which took the sting away somewhat.
Luckily it was followed by a pretty good Agents of Shield episode, which took the sting away somewhat.
OK, that made me laugh. I love the "meta" episodes, unlike Sam and Dean.
I actually teared up as they watched all characters in the final line up of their dead loved ones; that was sad. *sniff*
OK, yeah, the monster was pretty lame but holy CRAP, I loved that ending! So....is he back?? Is he still "writing?"
I actually teared up as they watched all characters in the final line up of their dead loved ones; that was sad. *sniff*
OK, yeah, the monster was pretty lame but holy CRAP, I loved that ending! So....is he back?? Is he still "writing?"
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