Touché.
Spoilers "Superman & Lois" Season 1 spoiler discussion!
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Touché.
If you're talking about Man of Steel, I'm happy to ignore most of it.
In fact that's exactly what you're doing.
But to me.
No, he was talking about a cut scene from Superman II, which has no bearing on the intent of the theatrical version--the only official version where Superman killed Zod. No accident, no, "I just dropped him on a ledge, and i'll get him later". He killed him because the movie repeatedly informed the audience that Zod was too dangerous to live, so Superman performed his usual heroic act, whether some wish that part of Superman did not exist or not.
Let's just say that Superman II was far from the best portrayal of Superman and should not be taken as an exemplar for how to depict him. Whereas Superman & Lois is one of the best portrayals of both its title characters that I've ever seen.
Most definitely, and that’s true of both the writing and the performances.
Absolutely.
Taken as a whole: He gives UP his powers to be with an utter nutbag like the Donner Lois, knowing full well all the people he could help are now helpless, once he gets those powers back he tortures Zod before "disposing" of him, goes back to clobber that now helpless trucker and then violates Lois' mind because he decides he can't trust her. And despite this, he still wants to romance her afterwards.
Sounds like dating in the 80's.
With only the two episode season finale left, I doubt it.
BTW serious drop in demo viewership for the last episode (44.4%). Young people were watching the NBA Finals I guess.
Yeah, I guess you're right.
I have to admit, I hadn't really thought about the fact that Superman is a big enough character to draw in people who might not watch Supergirl or the other Arrowverse shows.
No way to assess the drop--other than to compare the viewership of the next episodes post NBA finals (if the finals pulled any of this series' viewers at all).
I'm really loving this show and glad there's a board here for it.
That's a lot of beating around the bush, just to admit that it's a standalone show.
"A difference that makes no difference is no difference."
Come again?
Not “want to”. Simply not denying multiple depictions of Superman killing (albeit very rarely—no one wants Superman to be indistinguishable from The Punisher
).
The Margot Kidder Lois was an near-illiterate, chain smoking scatterbrain who did stuff like jumping out a window so that Superman will save her, pointing a gun (albeit loaded with blanks) to elicit a reaction from Clark (and throwing herself over Niagara Falls in the original Lester cut to make Clark out himself as Superman), essentially actions that no sane or rational person would attempt.
Lana in Superman 3, Lacy in Superman 4 and the Amy Adams versions were are far more believable as love interests and just characters on their own.
Kidder’s Lois was a little ... shall we say, heightened for comedic effect. (The “near-illiterate” thing, which I assume refers to her spelling challenges, was actually a great running gag.) As I’ve said elsewhere, I do prefer the more grounded modern Loises (Tulloch, Adams), but Kidder’s version is a classic portrayal that works perfectly with the tone and style of those films.
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