Spoilers "Superman & Lois" Season 1 spoiler discussion!

[Ryan Thomas Riddle]

All this talk of the Eradicator reminds me of this Kids in the Hall skit.

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[The Realist]

Somewhat spoilery paparazzi photo:

Spoiler

So Irons is back, complete with hammer, and "Leslie Larr" -- who is almost certainly carrying the consciousness of Lesla-Lar -- is rocking it Kryptonian style.

 

[Noname Given]

This would make sense but the creators keep insisting this is in the Arrowverse.

The 'Arrowverse' post Crisis is quite different from the 'Arrowverse' pre-Crisis. In the pre-Crisis Arrowverse, Kal El and Lois had just had a baby on the Kryptonian Asteroid City - Argo. During Crisis and post Crisis they suddenly had two teenage sons that were born here on Earth.

The pre-Crisis characters all remember the pre-Crisis continuity thanks to Martian Manhunter going around to everyone post Crisis; but they also remember/ actually lived the post-Crisis continuity too and have all those experiences* (except for the 7 who participated in the destruction and rebirth of the DC Arrowverse; although the implication is they have the post Crisis continuity memories too, but those were slowing re-integrating into their minds post Crisis.

So, yeah, there is no Continuity violation here because Arrowverse Continuity was remade from scratch, and although the characters know it, we the audience don't really know the extent of the changes post the 'merging' of multiple Earths into what I guess is now Earth Prime.

 

[Anwar]

This tends to happen with the Eradicator outside of comics. In the first comic origin it was created by one of Joe-El ancestors to eliminate any alien influences on Krypton. Or to Eradicate. In the animated Death and Return of Superman movies the Eradicator is an A.I. guardian program sent in his rocket to protect Kal-El on Earth. The name does not fit there either.

Well, kind of. In the comics the Eradicator was an alien device that was captured and reprogrammed by Xenophobic Kryptonians to make their world uninhabitable to aliens and make it impossible for Kryptonians to leave Krypton. Jor-El found out about the genetic weakness that had been altered into them all and cured it in Kal-El....just in time to find out the planet was going to blow up.

This was the Post-Crisis reasoning as to why no other Kryptonians tried to leave the planet. They literally couldn't.

 

[Skipper]

This was the Post-Crisis reasoning as to why no other Kryptonians tried to leave the planet. They literally couldn't.

Well, in fact, Pre-Crisis the only two people who died when Krypton exploded were Jor-El and Lara. All the other survivors are still laughing at them

 

[JD]

I found the end of the episode rather odd -- the camera tilting up to focus on that cliff/mesa as if it were significant, even though I couldn't see anything notable about it. It was pretty anticlimactic.

Yeah, that was kind of odd.

Somewhat spoilery paparazzi photo:

Spoiler

So Irons is back, complete with hammer, and "Leslie Larr" -- who is almost certainly carrying the consciousness of Lesla-Lar -- is rocking it Kryptonian style.

Spoiler: reaction to the picture

I'm assuming from the expressions on Tyler Hoechlin and Stacey Farber it looks like that was between scenes, but they way they are lined up makes me wonder if Leslie turns on Roh? It almost looks like a hero lineup that you tend to see when characters team up to confront a bad guy. Or I guess it could have been mid fight scene with the two of them fighting her.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Yeah, that was kind of odd.

Spoiler: reaction to the picture

I wonder if that was between scenes or if she turns on Roh? It almost looks like a hero lineup that you tend to see when characters team up to confront a bad guy.

Spoiler

Looks like people chilling between shots. Someone probably made a joke judging by their faces

 

[JD]

Yeah, I edited my post once I realized that.

 

[Caretaker]

Bitsie Tulloch posted the script cover (the barest of spoilers) for the season finale (episode 15) that is now filming. The episode is titled

Spoiler: episode title

"Last Sons of Krypton"

; story by Kristi Korzec & Michael Narducci; teleplay by Brent Fletcher & Todd Helbing; directed by Tom Cavanagh.

 

[Christopher]

So Batwoman's season is only 18 episodes and S&L is only 15. Are they all shortened this year?

 

[Dick Whitman]

I know The Flash also has 18 episodes this season. I believe Supergirl has 20 for its final season.

 

[Aragorn]

The Blacklist got to 22 episodes this season. I can't think of another full-season network show that made to that number.

 

[Tosk]

The Goldbergs.

 

[DEWLine]

So Batwoman's season is only 18 episodes and S&L is only 15. Are they all shortened this year?

Probably, because Pandemic.

 

[Christopher]

Probably, because Pandemic.

Well, yeah, obviously, but I figured that was mostly responsible for shortening the previous season. If anything, several shows (e.g. The Flash and Charmed) started this season with what would've been the last few episodes of the previous season, which I would've expected to add to the season length.

(I was going to say "I know, I haven't been living in a cave for the past year," but given the effects of the pandemic, maybe I should say "I know, I have been living in a cave for the past year." )

 

[Dick Whitman]

It was not clear before the pandemic what the original goal for number of episodes for the 1st season of Superman and Lois was. The start of production was delayed numbers times. Than it was halted due to someone on cast or crew who tested positive.

I do not remember if they ever announced a number early on. For many months during production I believe it was undecided due to that halt. Being cautious and waiting to see what they would be able to complete and how long it would take.They might have never have intended this to have a full 22 episode season before pandemic. But closer to Legends and Stargirl lengths.

 

[Christopher]

I guess I'm just disappointed it's not a longer season.

 

[Dick Whitman]

I agree. It will be interesting how long season 2 is. With it not starting until mid season I guessing and hoping more than just 15 episodes with things more stabilized now.

 

[The Realist]

Considering its 2022 second-season premiere, I'm guessing S&L will continue to have a reduced episode count, a la Black Lightning, instead of the ~22-episode seasons of, say, Supergirl.

(And there are those who will contend this is a good thing, because it supposedly cuts down on "filler," but as for me, I want more-more-more.)

 

[Christopher]

(And there are those who will contend this is a good thing, because it supposedly cuts down on "filler," but as for me, I want more-more-more.)

Yeah. I don't think that having a single story arc per season is the best format for a superhero show. Let the character development follow an arc structure, maybe have a main story arc that's revisited intermittently between standalones and then takes center stage in the final few episodes, but let's see some villains-of-the-week, or short arcs of maybe a few episodes each.

I really liked the format of Star Trek: Enterprise's final season, where the season was broken up into story arcs ranging from one to three episodes. It gave them a lot more flexibility than a strict episodic structure or a single season-long arc. I've long been surprised that no other show has followed that approach. It really worked well.