Spoilers "Superman & Lois" Season 1 spoiler discussion!

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  1. David cgc

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    I got the impression that it was just meant to be an archive, a whole planet's worth of Jor-El Fortress of Solitude holograms (which I presume is also what Superman was trying to do by taking the Eradicator to the Fortress at the end of this episode).
     
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  2. Enterprise is Great

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    I wonder if Edge has his own Fortress of Solitude there. The cliff/mesa sort of looked like the outside of Superman’s FoS.
     
  3. Dick Whitman

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    I have been wondering about the Eradicator name in the context of this show too. I would be to first to admit that this show is often better written than most of the other Arrowverse shows. But this is is a rare exception that fits with a Arrowverse pattern of carrying over comic specific names so they are an identifiable Brand. But do not fit the on screen version at all. Reminds of when Hank Henshaw on Supergirl declared himself “Cyborg Superman”.

    This tends to happen with the Eradicator outside of comics. In the first comic origin it was created by one of Joe-El ancestors to eliminate any alien influences on Krypton. Or to Eradicate. In the animated Death and Return of Superman movies the Eradicator is an A.I. guardian program sent in his rocket to protect Kal-El on Earth. The name does not fit there either.

    Another question - Lara’s “spirit” seems to have memories right until her death. But the Eradicator was stolen from her before Krypton was destroyed. She seemed to be omniscient about events she would not be aware of. Including a name for her invention that was clearly not of her choosing.

    I also suspect Edge has his own Kryptonian Fortress. Might explain some of these questions. Does he have an A.I. of his own father? Is he planning to revive him in a human body?
     
  4. Ryan Thomas Riddle

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    All this talk of the Eradicator reminds me of this Kids in the Hall skit.

     
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  5. The Realist

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    Somewhat spoilery paparazzi photo:
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    So Irons is back, complete with hammer, and "Leslie Larr" -- who is almost certainly carrying the consciousness of Lesla-Lar -- is rocking it Kryptonian style.
     
  6. Noname Given

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    The 'Arrowverse' post Crisis is quite different from the 'Arrowverse' pre-Crisis. In the pre-Crisis Arrowverse, Kal El and Lois had just had a baby on the Kryptonian Asteroid City - Argo. During Crisis and post Crisis they suddenly had two teenage sons that were born here on Earth.

    The pre-Crisis characters all remember the pre-Crisis continuity thanks to Martian Manhunter going around to everyone post Crisis; but they also remember/ actually lived the post-Crisis continuity too and have all those experiences* (except for the 7 who participated in the destruction and rebirth of the DC Arrowverse; although the implication is they have the post Crisis continuity memories too, but those were slowing re-integrating into their minds post Crisis.

    So, yeah, there is no Continuity violation here because Arrowverse Continuity was remade from scratch, and although the characters know it, we the audience don't really know the extent of the changes post the 'merging' of multiple Earths into what I guess is now Earth Prime.
     
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  7. Anwar

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    Well, kind of. In the comics the Eradicator was an alien device that was captured and reprogrammed by Xenophobic Kryptonians to make their world uninhabitable to aliens and make it impossible for Kryptonians to leave Krypton. Jor-El found out about the genetic weakness that had been altered into them all and cured it in Kal-El....just in time to find out the planet was going to blow up.

    This was the Post-Crisis reasoning as to why no other Kryptonians tried to leave the planet. They literally couldn't.
     
  8. Skipper

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    Well, in fact, Pre-Crisis the only two people who died when Krypton exploded were Jor-El and Lara. All the other survivors are still laughing at them :biggrin:
     
  9. JD

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    Yeah, that was kind of odd.
    I'm assuming from the expressions on Tyler Hoechlin and Stacey Farber it looks like that was between scenes, but they way they are lined up makes me wonder if Leslie turns on Roh? It almost looks like a hero lineup that you tend to see when characters team up to confront a bad guy. Or I guess it could have been mid fight scene with the two of them fighting her.
     
  10. Nerys Myk

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    Looks like people chilling between shots. Someone probably made a joke judging by their faces
     
  11. JD

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    Yeah, I edited my post once I realized that.
     
  12. Caretaker

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    Bitsie Tulloch posted the script cover (the barest of spoilers) for the season finale (episode 15) that is now filming. The episode is titled
    "Last Sons of Krypton"
    ; story by Kristi Korzec & Michael Narducci; teleplay by Brent Fletcher & Todd Helbing; directed by Tom Cavanagh.
     
  13. Christopher

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    So Batwoman's season is only 18 episodes and S&L is only 15. Are they all shortened this year?
     
  14. Dick Whitman

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    I know The Flash also has 18 episodes this season. I believe Supergirl has 20 for its final season.
     
  15. Aragorn

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    The Blacklist got to 22 episodes this season. I can't think of another full-season network show that made to that number.
     
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    The Goldbergs.
     
  17. DEWLine

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    Probably, because Pandemic.
     
  18. Christopher

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    Well, yeah, obviously, but I figured that was mostly responsible for shortening the previous season. If anything, several shows (e.g. The Flash and Charmed) started this season with what would've been the last few episodes of the previous season, which I would've expected to add to the season length.

    (I was going to say "I know, I haven't been living in a cave for the past year," but given the effects of the pandemic, maybe I should say "I know, I have been living in a cave for the past year." ;) )
     
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  19. Dick Whitman

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    It was not clear before the pandemic what the original goal for number of episodes for the 1st season of Superman and Lois was. The start of production was delayed numbers times. Than it was halted due to someone on cast or crew who tested positive.

    I do not remember if they ever announced a number early on. For many months during production I believe it was undecided due to that halt. Being cautious and waiting to see what they would be able to complete and how long it would take.They might have never have intended this to have a full 22 episode season before pandemic. But closer to Legends and Stargirl lengths.
     
  20. Christopher

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    I guess I'm just disappointed it's not a longer season.
     
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