Morgan Edge worked for Darkseid in in the comics.
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I remember thinking how modern and weird it seemed that Clark was behind the desk on TV.
But what about Lana?
Jesus.
Sure she's a Manhunter and killed a dozen people to get that job, but there's a crisis between point a and b to this story.
But what about Lana?
Jesus.
Sure she's a Manhunter and killed a dozen people to get that job, but there's a crisis between point a and b to this story.
By the way, it didn't made any sense even in the twisted logic of the comics world. Pre-Crisis Clark Kent was even depicted awkward and shy to a pathological level and almost incapable to interact with his coworkers on every thing which wasn't strict work related. How the heck someone could think "Yes, this is newscaster prime material!!!" without even doing a test drive?
Thank goodness that post-Crisis Clark Kent behaved like a well-adjusted human being, because all the "If I don't pretend to be a spineless coward amoeba incapable to interact with other people like a normal person EVERYONE WILL SUSPECT I'M SUPERMAN" was frankly ridicolous.
Thank goodness that post-Crisis Clark Kent behaved like a well-adjusted human being, because all the "If I don't pretend to be a spineless coward amoeba incapable to interact with other people like a normal person EVERYONE WILL SUSPECT I'M SUPERMAN" was frankly ridicolous.
I was actually kind of disheartened when Creepshow punched through the wall and revealed that Edge's Evul Plan was to get ALL TEH KRYPTONITE AND DESTROY SUPERMAN!!! Up until now the show has been rather intriguingly more sophisticated than that kind of thing. Edge is more interesting as a rapacious and unsympathetic billionaire who's gonna buy up and use up the hometown - but then, that's a kind of threat against which Clark would find his powers of surprisingly little use...and therefore, a potentially far more interesting one.
A Bio I just read suggests that Morgan hooked up with Darkseid decades before he gave Clark that job, so it's possible that Morgan knew who Clark really was all along, and used the promotion to hamstring the Kryptonians superheorics.
Edge could do all the supercrime he felt like while Clark was reading the News at 6 and Nine.
His plan is sheer elegance in its simplicity, isn't it?
... a post by @Guy Gardener which actually makes sense?
Now THAT would be a big reveal.
It’s pretty evident she has the hots for Jordan. I don’t think she cared for her previous boyfriend
I said the boyfriend got over it fast, I wasn't talking about her.
I'm terrible at remembering names.
Ah. I misread. Apologies
Covid restrictions. They're keeping the same people grouped together on the same stages and not letting them mix, so if a person gets infected on one show, it doesn't interrupt production on any of the others. The various shows would probably would be sharing more production materials if not for the pandemic (though, with all the characters S&L has recast, maybe not).
A good episode for Clark and Lois, though lighter on the Superman action than previous episodes. I could've done without the Smallville echoes with the schoolkid getting freak-of-the-week powers from kryptonite exposure.
Nice to see Lois unloading on Sam for his toxic/absentee fathering. This version of Sam Lane is so different from the Earth-38 version in his relationship to Superman (also his appearance) that it's refreshing to see that at least his relationship with Lois came through the Crisis in recognizable form.
Yeah, the Fortress there looked extremely different, but its different chambers have enough different looks that I'm willing to believe the part seen here is some kind of side annex. I figure Clark let Kara have the main house and moved into the garage, basically.
I've never really seen the appeal of Amy Adams, in any role I've seen her in; I find her blandly pleasant, but no more than that, with none of the sharp edges that Lois Lane should have. For me, the primary templates for Lois are Dana Delany, Margot Kidder, Teri Hatcher, and Erica Durance, with Noel Neill and Phyllis Coates having some weight as well. And I'd definitely say Tulloch is proving herself to be in their league. I was particularly impressed with the way she cut loose on her father. There's that sharp edge.
As mentioned above, that was the case in the comics as well. Darkseid, Morgan Edge, and Intergang were all introduced in Jack Kirby's debut storyline on Superman's Pal, Jimmy Olsen in 1970 (along with the DNA Project, aka Project Cadmus, and various other influential concepts).
Nice to see Lois unloading on Sam for his toxic/absentee fathering. This version of Sam Lane is so different from the Earth-38 version in his relationship to Superman (also his appearance) that it's refreshing to see that at least his relationship with Lois came through the Crisis in recognizable form.
Yeah, the Fortress there looked extremely different, but its different chambers have enough different looks that I'm willing to believe the part seen here is some kind of side annex. I figure Clark let Kara have the main house and moved into the garage, basically.
I've never really seen the appeal of Amy Adams, in any role I've seen her in; I find her blandly pleasant, but no more than that, with none of the sharp edges that Lois Lane should have. For me, the primary templates for Lois are Dana Delany, Margot Kidder, Teri Hatcher, and Erica Durance, with Noel Neill and Phyllis Coates having some weight as well. And I'd definitely say Tulloch is proving herself to be in their league. I was particularly impressed with the way she cut loose on her father. There's that sharp edge.
As mentioned above, that was the case in the comics as well. Darkseid, Morgan Edge, and Intergang were all introduced in Jack Kirby's debut storyline on Superman's Pal, Jimmy Olsen in 1970 (along with the DNA Project, aka Project Cadmus, and various other influential concepts).
It's always amazed me that what sounds like it was a goofy, cheesy series, ended up introducing so many new things that went on to be huge parts of the wider Superman mythos.
It looks like instead of evil Kryptonians, we're actually dealing with people Edge gave Kryptonian powers.
I definitely got the Smallville vibes in the stuff with Tad.
It definitely looks like Sam Lane is going to become more antagonistic towards Clark now.
The whole prologue with Edge getting the device for the "resurrection" and the X-Kryptonite definitely puts a new spin on whatever is going on with him. I had assumed he was going to be a purely grounded antagonist for Lois, so I was surprised when they added the more sci-fi elements to that plot.
Since Capt. Luthor seems to have experience with evil Kryptonians, I'm wondering if we might see him actually team up with Clark to fight the people Edge is giving powers too.
It looks like instead of evil Kryptonians, we're actually dealing with people Edge gave Kryptonian powers.
I was wondering about that too, although my thinking was that it was just a distraction from what he's up to in Smallville. He knows Superman is involved since he fought the guy with Kryptonian, so I could see him doing that as a way to keep him from getting further involved in whatever his plans are.
I definitely got the Smallville vibes in the stuff with Tad.
It definitely looks like Sam Lane is going to become more antagonistic towards Clark now.
The whole prologue with Edge getting the device for the "resurrection" and the X-Kryptonite definitely puts a new spin on whatever is going on with him. I had assumed he was going to be a purely grounded antagonist for Lois, so I was surprised when they added the more sci-fi elements to that plot.
Since Capt. Luthor seems to have experience with evil Kryptonians, I'm wondering if we might see him actually team up with Clark to fight the people Edge is giving powers too.
Has he said anything about wanting to destroy Superman yet?
As I understand it, the reason they gave Jimmy Olsen to Kirby was because it was DC's lowest-selling series, and so they pretty much gave him carte blanche to do whatever he wanted with it, because it couldn't do any harm and might save it from cancellation. And so he ended up laying the groundwork for the Fourth World.
Oh, that didn't occur to me. Well, I hope so, since we already had evil Kryptonians in a couple of Supergirl seasons.
By the way, I like it that they touched on the question of Edge's accent, with Lois saying it was fake and Edge attributing it to his schooling overseas. That helps explain the difference from Supergirl's pre-Crisis Edge, Adrian Pasdar. I guess the Earth-Prime version was born in the same place but had a different life history and schooling -- like how Kelvin Carol Marcus has an English accent because her father was posted in London.
Oh, hey, and I just realized something else.
On Black Lightning, they just recast Jennifer after she was disintegrated and reconstituted, and they handwaved it as the result of a change in how her genes were expressed in development. That could also explain things like the recastings of Sam Lane and Morgan Edge -- their Earth-Prime versions had different gene expression and so ended up looking different.
Or he already knows Clark's alter ego, which would be a better explanation for why Edge would keep him occupied, because if he (Edge) did not know Clark was Superman, he would assume he's still in the Metropolis area--not anywhere close to Smallville where the threat would always be watching over his shoulder.
That's why I referred to the possibility of this series going in the direction of Justice League Unlimited's Ultimen plot, using the Department of Defense's meta program as his stated contingency plan to not only be his personal super-force, but to nullify Superman.
Eh, that would not make much sense; as it stands, Alt-Luthor wants to kill a Superman of another dimension--Alt-Luthor knows he is not the one who terrorized his home world, yet he's obsessed with killing Superman in any case. If that's the motive the showrunners have given Alt-Luthor, then they should stick with that, instead of having him toss his own beliefs out of the window for a "enemy-becomes-my-ally" plot.
Considering the research and element he's using, why would that not be a recipe for killing Superman?
Oh, Sam said something to the effect that Superman was the only or strongest force (assuming he meant of his kind) on earth, which means this world no longer has any connection to the other CW series. If they were connected, then Lane (and any government branch) would be well aware of the other, highly visible superheroes / enhanced individuals.
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Because not all kryptonite is created equal. Only green kryptonite is usually portrayed as deadly to Kryptonians, and this is a yellow X-kryptonite, which apparently has the effect of activating the human meta-gene (maybe it has dark matter in it?).
He never said "only." He said Superman was the greatest force for good in the world.
Adams is one of the very finest actors of her generation, who radiates honesty and humanity every moment she's on screen. She exudes those qualities as Lois, along with the smarts, savvy, courage, and determination that are the character's hallmarks, without ever risking parody. She's a wonder.
(YMMV.)
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