Superman (casting, rumors, pix till release)

[Captaindemotion]

^ Yeah, I was just sceptical of the rumour - no criticism was intended of you for posting it. Hope that was how it came across.

Still, it would be pretty comic-strip-like if the two main actresses in the movie had the initials AA and LL!

 

[Flying Spaghetti Monster]

Looks like she'd rather play Sharon Tate than be in Superman

 

[Admiral_Young]

^ Yeah I saw that story. The thing about Lindsay is that unfortunately the mistakes she continues to make in her personal life have usually resulted in interfering with projects or projects she's been interested in. I can think of a couple projects where she's had to drop or been fired from (not their names off the top of my head though) due to her various problems. It's sad because she does have some talent.

 

[Admiral Buzzkill]

She looks rather like Tate. Bless her and good luck to her.

 

[Aragorn]

Charlie Sheen as Lex Luthor, Lindsay Lohan as Lana Lang, Gary Busey as Perry White, and Tom Cruise will do every single one of his own stunts as Zod. Let's see that Superman movie get bonded.

 

[Admiral_Young]

I see we're at the point where we're needing actual news to discuss again lol.

 

[CorporalCaptain]

Well, I can fill the time with what I think is an interesting question. In Superman (1978), I heard murmurs in Jor-El's dialog suggesting that Superman's powers derive from differences between the laws of physics in Krypton's galaxy and our own galaxy. From a transcript:

COMPUTER
(JOR-EL'S VOICE)
Each of the six galaxies which you will pass through contain their own individual law...
(later)
...space and time. It is forbidden for you to interfere with human history...

At least this is how I interpret this dialog. I assume he means "law of nature", rather than "law of justice". Of course, the following dialog was much more overt, although I believe consistent with my interpretation above [ibid.]:

LARA
(pleading)
But why Earth, Jor-El? They're primitives, thousands of years behind us.

JOR-EL
He will need that advantage to survive. Their atmosphere will...will sustain him.

JOR-EL looks at his son, briefly smiles in pain and walks over to the area where the ship that will carry the BABY lies. There are information crystals placed in slots on the edges.

LARA
(walks after him, carrying the BABY)
He will defy their gravity.

JOR-EL
He will look like one of them.

LARA
He won't *be* one of them.

JOR-EL
No. His dense molecular structure will make him strong.
(looks at the rocket ship)

LARA
(looks down)
He'll be odd. (stares at JOR-EL again) Different.

JOR-EL
He'll be fast. Virtually invulnerable.

LARA
(staring at him)
Isolated. Alone.

JOR-EL
(sighs, looking down at the transparent crystal in his hands)
He will not be alone.
(holds up the crystal, and takes a long look at it)
He will never be alone.

Question: Will there be any explanation in the new film about how Superman gets his powers?

 

[Admiral_Young]

I would assume there will be references to Clark being a solar battery yes. It really depends on how Krypton is used or not used really.

 

[CorporalCaptain]

^ So, you're thinking that the explanation, if any, will center around the traditional, unnuanced narrative that a yellow sun bestows powers to a Kryptonian, period and regardless of any other factors, whereas a red sun re-neutralizes them?

 

[O'Dib]

There could theoretically be a lot of nuance to that explanation. I always thought the only way the yellow sun thing makes sense is if Kryptonians evolved powers on their homeworld under a yellow Rao, which got turned into a red giant by some mysterious enemy that wanted to depower the entire race, and subsequently imposed a space-flight embargo (the only time in which they could not enforce it would be when they bailed because their red sun plan backfired and made Rao go Nova, giving Jor-El the window he needed)

 

[Admiral_Young]

If they're taking source material from "Birthright" and "Secret Origin" which I believe to be the case then yes we'll get the traditional explanation of how Superman's powers work. I don't think they'll drastically alter this part of his character and mythos. I believe what they're talking about when they mean that this will be different than anything we've seen before is that they're separating themselves from other onscreen depictions of the character that we've seen. Nothing more than that.


"Superman Earth One" implied that there was someone else responsible for the destruction of Krypton. He turned out to be the villain of the first volume. That's something that's never been done before.

 

[Captaindemotion]

Not sure if this has been posted already or not and I'm suspicious that this is just a casting agency trying to get publicity for one of their actors. Anyway, it's being reported that actor Adam Harris has had two auditions for the role of Lex.

http://youbentmywookie.com/entertai...-of-lex-luthor-in-superman-man-of-steel-12045

 

[Admiral_Young]

Not seen it reported anywhere else yet so yeah I'm betting it was the agency...and he looks...meh to me not to mention I've not heard of him before. I suspect we'll get some more casting news in the next couple of weeks.

 

[Admiral Buzzkill]

There is no way that any explanation for Superman's powers actually makes scientific sense - Byrne threw around the word "psionics" as if it were really less "abracadabra" than the old yellow sun silliness.

It's magic, folks. Everyone knows that Superman has powers from our yellow sun because he came from another planet; leave it alone.

 

[Captaindemotion]

^ Uh, the force?

Dude, that's your answer to everything!

 

[TheSeeker]

As long as they don't bring midi-chlorians into it.

 

[Kai "the spy"]

Well, I can fill the time with what I think is an interesting question. In Superman (1978), I heard murmurs in Jor-El's dialog suggesting that Superman's powers derive from differences between the laws of physics in Krypton's galaxy and our own galaxy. From a transcript:

COMPUTER
(JOR-EL'S VOICE)
Each of the six galaxies which you will pass through contain their own individual law...
(later)
...space and time. It is forbidden for you to interfere with human history...

At least this is how I interpret this dialog. I assume he means "law of nature", rather than "law of justice". Of course, the following dialog was much more overt, although I believe consistent with my interpretation above [ibid.]:

LARA
(pleading)
But why Earth, Jor-El? They're primitives, thousands of years behind us.

JOR-EL
He will need that advantage to survive. Their atmosphere will...will sustain him.

JOR-EL looks at his son, briefly smiles in pain and walks over to the area where the ship that will carry the BABY lies. There are information crystals placed in slots on the edges.

LARA
(walks after him, carrying the BABY)
He will defy their gravity.

JOR-EL
He will look like one of them.

LARA
He won't *be* one of them.

JOR-EL
No. His dense molecular structure will make him strong.
(looks at the rocket ship)

LARA
(looks down)
He'll be odd. (stares at JOR-EL again) Different.

JOR-EL
He'll be fast. Virtually invulnerable.

LARA
(staring at him)
Isolated. Alone.

JOR-EL
(sighs, looking down at the transparent crystal in his hands)
He will not be alone.
(holds up the crystal, and takes a long look at it)
He will never be alone.

Question: Will there be any explanation in the new film about how Superman gets his powers?

There is no way that any explanation for Superman's powers actually makes scientific sense - Byrne threw around the word "psionics" as if it were really less "abracadabra" than the old yellow sun silliness.

It's magic, folks. Everyone knows that Superman has powers from our yellow sun because he came from another planet; leave it alone.

You guys should read this book.

 

[CorporalCaptain]

Yeah, I saw that and didn't even bother to crack the cover. Thanks!

Returning back to red sun/yellow sun is OK with me. But anything specific is doomed to failure in some segment of the viewership, including that. (For the record, I thought the babble of Puzo et al. as I interpret it was pretty cool, though, and it's really only a minor revision of red sun/yellow sun.)

But psionics?!? Someone actually tried psionics?!? And the editors let him get away with it??? That's wrong on so many levels.

 

[UssGlenn]

But psionics?!? Someone actually tried psionics?!? And the editors let him get away with it??? That's wrong on so many levels.

wasn't that put in place to explain how the things he lifts up don't collapse under their own weight? He'd be reinforcing the entire structure by touching it.

 

[Jetfire]

I am all for Lindsay Lohan joining this movie.

Still love you babe!