Discussion in 'Science Fiction & Fantasy' started by Obiwanshinobi, Jan 30, 2011.
^ Yeah, I was thinking that too.
It will be weird to have two actors playing Superman at relatively the same time in two different continuities, if one assumes that the Snyder films are successful enough to develop into a trilogy by the time the JL film is released.
I'm a Jon Hamm for Lex Luthor guy myself. Ralph Finnes would be good, Michael C. Hall as well. I would assume that Snyder will be going for another outside the box choice if Lex is indeed in the film.
Didn't seem to worry WB when they had both Smallville and Superman Returns on at the same time. And, to some extent, WB seemed okay with pushing a Superman movie when Lois & Clark was still on the air.
If this goes through, it'll be fine. Or maybe it won't. Either way, WB doesn't seem to be worrying about it.
People don't seem to get just how few people watch Smallville. It's barely mass entertainment. Cripes, the last Star Trek TV series was cancelled for ratings like these - off of a weblet that then tanked and was absorbed into its competition.
In short, most people who go to the movies never have and never will see an episode of the show.
I gave Smallville multiple chances. It always managed to repel me in short order. I tuned in for some JSA stuff, which was marginally interesting, and could have gone somewhere, but then they managed to immediately piss it all away as far as I was concerned.
Well, regardless of whether one likes or loathes it the viewership numbers speak for themselves where audience penetration and reach is concerned.
^ You said "penetration". Then, you said "reach".
I don't know. Never Say Never Again and Octopussy both came out the same year, with two different actors playing Bond. Nobody seemed to mind.
And didn't we have three Robin Hood movies one year?
(Heck, tomorrow night I believe that Camelot and Merlin are on at the same time!)
Most of us have grown up seeing multiple characters playing James Bond, Tarzan, Sherlock Holmes, etcetera in various different continuities.
It's not that hard for audiences to wrap their minds around.
Sure, but, while you have a really good point lurking in there, there is an important nuance to this example, that in fairness cannot be overlooked: One of the actors was the classic original James Bond, and the other was the longstanding current James Bond of the time. To characterize them as merely "two different actors" is the very model of understatement.
Okay then it will be weird for me lol...wow. I think the only Smallville fans that don't get that it has a large audience are the shippers and fanatics. Everyone else is well aware of it's small niche of fans.
I'll admit that it might be a less-than-comfortable situation for an actor to be in - to be the guy playing Superman in JLA, for instance, and to maybe be treated to a greater or lesser degree as "not the real Superman" (assuming that the Snyder reboot is successful and Cavill very popular in the role, which is not really that big a leap of faith). JLA Supes is kind of the junior varsity then, you know?
That might be a little less true for the guy playing Batman in the JLA movie, for several reasons.
I remember at the time Moore, tongue firmly in his cheek, downplaying it all and saying that it was no big deal, after all, you could go to the theatre and see Olivier playing King Lear one night, then go the next night to the neighbouring theatre to see Gielgud playing the same role! Incidentally, the same year as NSNA and Octopussy hit cinemas, Lazenby kind of cameoed as Bond in the tv movie Return of the Man from Uncle, making it a treple.
I do think this is different from two Supermans or Batmans appearing in two different official movies from the same stable, released around the same time, however. Having said that, I'm less against this idea than I was around the time that Miller's JL was mooted. Given that Routh has been and gone, that Bale is now on (apparently) his final Batmovie and that Spider-man, Hulk, Punisher have all been re-cast or re-booted (with Daredevil soon to follow), I think audiences will cope.
Yeah, the idea of the same role being played by multiple actors at more or less the same time isn't all that odd. As I recall, the Frank Langella version of DRACULA, the remake of NOSFERATU, the BBC "Count Dracula" with Louis Jourdan, and LOVE AT FIRST BITE with George Hamilton all came out within a year of each other.
And, heck, we've got at least two ongoing SHERLOCK HOLMES series in production these days . . . .
I think Paul Rudd would be an unconventional Lex Luthor...like Michael Rosenbaum was on Smallville. Paul is funny and I think he could be sinister in a cool way.
^ I could actually see that. I like Rudd. Billy Zane needs to be Luthor at least once in his career I remember him being suggested in multiple Wizard Casting Call segments.
Zane's voice also reminds me a bit of Clancy Brown's.
Henry Cavil talks about the difference of this movie compared to the others...nothing really new here.
I clicked on that, then I clicked on another related story... and I have to say the Smallville fans on that site are beyond delusional about their own show.
^ They're the fanatics that I was referring to before.
You'd think they were talking about MASH or Cheers for how big they're making Smallville out to be. It would be like if a Voyager fan proclaimed that Paramount needs to make a Voyager movie because it's the most popular Trek show in history and would make $1 billion at the box office.
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